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Spoke both of them y:e Irish language

"this Depo:t well knoweth the arlate John Tilly Merchant residing at Amsterdam and soe hath done for theise twenty yeeres last or thereabouts, during all w:ch space y:e said John Tilly hath lived at Amsterdam, in Holland. and Dover here in England, And saith hee the said Tilly lived at Amsterdam as a Merchant Stranger, And is a Subject of this Comonwealth of England; And is Generally and Commonly accompted an Irish-man borne; and soe this Depo:t verily beleeveth hee is, And saith that hee this depo:t well knowe the said John Tilley his, ffather and Mother, who were both Commonly accomted Natives of Ireland; and spoke both of them y:e Irish Language, And knowe y:e said John Tylly, first living at Dover, where this Depo:t lived neere the house where y:e sd Tilly there lived for many yeeres together, and saith the said Tilly About 18 or 19 yeeres since went two Voyages with this Depo:t: from Dover and this Depo:t hath bin offentimes at the house of the said John Tilly in Amsterdam, and thereby knoweth y:e premisses"

TNA, HCA 13/125: Examination: 9:ns Jan de Vos of London Mariner, M:r of the ship the ffox aged 53 yeares: Date: Aprill 21st, 1659


Gave this depo:t writing in the Dutch language

"the said John Maetsuijker the Generall of the said Dutch East India Company at Battavia Did (upon or about the 11:th day of December 1657) at Battavia give this Depo:t writing in the Dutch Language subscribed w:th his owne hand. signifying. the goode Carriage, and dilligence of this Depo:t And having now sene the third schedule annexed to the said Allon hee saith the same was and is the said Originall writing soe Given to this Depo:t and by the sd Generall & XXXXX this Dep:t saw the said John Maetsuijker subscribe the same"

TNA, HCA 13/73 Part Two: Case: S:r John Dethick Knight, Edward Bolle, John Bancks Richard ffoord, Edward Mico, William ?Pretman and Company, concerning the Bantam ffrigott: Deposition: 4. Thomas Newman, of Mile End, Stepney, Merchant, late Supra cargo of the Bantam ffrigott, aged 43: Date: Aprill 16th 1658


Who could & did speake all of them good English

"all or the greatest part of the sayd shipps company that made the sayd seizure were Italians, except one dutch man who was Master XXXXX & an other dutchman that was gunner of her, & an Irish man who was one of her Company, and hee further saith that after the sayd seizure the sayd two dutch men & Irish man (who could & did speake all ... of them good English)..."

TNA, HCA 13/73: Case: John Swift John Parker John Harris and Company, Owners of the Shipp the Lady ffrigott vs. Hippolito Centurione of Genoa and others: Deposition: 5. John Gates, of Debtford, Kent, Ship Wright, one of the Carpenters of the Lady ffrigott, aged 18 : Date: June 4th, 1659

 


All w:ch words passed in the Molaine and English language

"the said Antonio van Voozt then told this Depo;t that if hee did not dept from thence with the said ship without further trading There, hee would forthwith force this depo:t and y:e sd Ship and Company thereof to Dept thence; or to that effect, All w:ch words and XXXions passed betweene this Depo:t & y:e sd Van Voozt on board On board the sd Turtle Dove in the Molaine and English Language but w:ch Languages the said Van Voozt, and alsoe this Depo:t well spake & understood and saith that one Kaleb ?Kime Mate of the Bantam heard some of the said words"

HCA 13/73 Part Two: Case: S:r John Dethick Knight, Edward Bolle, John Bancks Richard ffoord, Edward Mico, William ?Pretman and Company, concerning the Bantam ffrigott: Deposition: 4. Thomas Newman, of Mile End, Stepney, Merchant, late Supra cargo of the Bantam ffrigott, aged 43: Date: Aprill 16th 1658