HCA 13/71 f.185r Annotate - Revision history

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+|Status=Missing image; transcribed on 13/04/2013
 |First transcriber=Jill Wilcox
-|First transcriber=Jill Wilcox 13/04/13
+|First transcribed=2013/04/13
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 |Transcription=knoweth, both for that the like termes and allowances of such average have at
 Lisbone aforesaid by severall Merchants been presented and proffered to this deponent
@@ Line 24: / Line 23: @@
 navigation aforesaid. save onely the allowance or average predeposed, and the
 priviledge or benefitt of the Cabbin allowed the Captaine for the transporting of
-passengers And otherwise cannot depose:-/:-
+passengers And otherwise cannot depose&#58;-/&#58;-
 To the 4th Article of the said Allegation hee saith That in the moneth of November
@@ Line 44: / Line 43: @@
 propounding to this deponent to allow him a 4th part of such average and this examinate
 refusing to goe upon such termes, the designe was broken off and the said shipp
-commanded for London. And further cannot depose:-/
+commanded for London. And further cannot depose&#58;-/
 To the 5th Article hee saith that hee this deponent well knoweth, that the
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 to such shipps Owners And saith, That in the Brazeele Charterparties it is usuall
 (as
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 |Folio=185
 |Side=Recto
-|Status=First cut transcription completed on 13/04/13 by Jill Wilcox; pasted into wikispot on 27/04/14 by Colin Greenstreet
+|Status=First cut transcription completed on 13/04/13 by Jill Wilcox; pasted into wikispot on 27/04/14 and edited on 29/07/14 by Colin Greenstreet
 |First transcriber=Jill Wilcox 13/04/13
@@ Line 14: / Line 14: @@
 |Transcription=knoweth, both for that the like termes and allowances of such average have at
-Lisbone aforesaid by severall merchants been presented and proffered to this deponent
+Lisbone aforesaid by severall Merchants been presented and proffered to this deponent
 in case hee would undertake such a Voyage, and for that this deponent by longe
 acquaintance and familiar conservation with Merchants and Masters of shipps
 both English and Genoese hath constantly been credibly informed and assured of
-the trueth of the Custome and practice predeposed. And further cannot depose
+the trueth of the Customs and practice predeposed. And further cannot depose
 To the third Article hee saith that hee this deponent doeth not knowe nor ever heard
@@ Line 26: / Line 26: @@
 passengers And otherwise cannot depose:-/:-
-To the 4th Article of the said Allegation hee saith that in the moneth of November
+To the 4th Article of the said Allegation hee saith That in the moneth of November
-<u>1655</u> last past, the shipp the ''hannibal'' of London whereof this deponent was
+<u>1655.</u> last past, the shipp the ''hannibal'' of London whereof this deponent was
 and is Commander in chiefe being at Portsmouth then upon her discharge from
 the immediate service of the Commonwealth wherein shee had bin employed under
 the conduct of this deponent and this deponent then being at London in Company and
-discourse at a sett meeting with the Owner&#91;?s&#93; of the said shipp and haveing a License
+discourse at a sett meeting with the Owners of the said shipp and haveing a License
 from the king of Portugall to goe with his said shipp to the Brazeele, this
-deponent amongst other things propounded to his said Owner&#91;?s&#93; a voiage with the said
+deponent amongst other things propounded to his said Owners a Voiage with the said
 shipp to the said parts of Brazeele, if such an opportunity word offered, when
-hee should come to Lisborne, whereupon the said Owner&#91;?s&#93; demanded of this examinate
+hee should come to Lisborne, whereupon the said Owners demanded of this examinate
 what hee would expect as to the average usually and constantly allowed to
-Commanders upon such a voiage, to which this deponent replyed, that what was
+Commanders upon such a Voiage, to which this deponent replyed, that what was
 Customary upon designes of that nature, hee should and would expect to the full,
 and that if any difference should happen about the said allowance or average
-hee would (God granting him a happy voiage and returne) referr the same to
+hee would (God granting him a happy Voiage and returne) referr the same to
-Justice, or to indifferent men to be determined , and the said Owner thereupon
+Justice, or to indifferent men to be determined , and the said Ownes thereupon
 propounding to this deponent to allow him a 4th part of such average and this examinate
 refusing to goe upon such termes, the designe was broken off and the said shipp
-commanded for London. And further cannot depose./
+commanded for London. And further cannot depose:-/
 To the 5th Article hee saith that hee this deponent well knoweth, that the
 arlate Captaine Edward Wye Master of the shipp the ''Saphire'' arlate
-Captaine Peter Tatam master of the shipp the ''hannibal'' arlate Captaine
+Captaine Peter Tatam Master of the shipp the ''hannibal'' arlate Captaine
 William Ell Master of the shipp the ''Prosperous'' arlate, Captaine Thomas
 Bell Master of the ''May fflower'' arlate and Captaine John Wills
@@ Line 57: / Line 57: @@
 Captaine Wye say and affirme aboard this deponents shipp the ''America''
 in Cascales bay in Portugall, that they were to have the full average
-allowance and privilidge belonging and due to commanders of shipps goeing
+allowance and privilidge belonging and due to Commanders of shipps goeing
 for the Brazeele. And further cannot depose; saving his foregoeing deposition
 To which hee referreth./
@@ Line 63: / Line 63: @@
 To the 6th Article hee saith, that by reason of his long continued experience in
 matters of Contracts and Charteparties between Merchants and Masters of
-shipps hee knoweth), that in all ordinary Charterparties for other voyages
+shipps hee knoweth), That in all ordinary Charterparties for other voyages
 and not for the Brazeele, it is usuall therein to expresse the freight in particular
 either by the tunn, or by the moneth or by the Voiage, and that usually
-primage and average, and sometimes &#91;?petilad&#93; moneye are expressed in such
+primage and average, and sometimes petilad (sic) moneys accustomed are expressed in such
 Charterparties over and besides the said freight, which said Average,
 belonged and been received by the Masters and Companies of shipps, and were
-divided and Distributed amongst them, the freight aforesaid onely belonging
+devided and Distributed amongst them, the freight aforesaid onely belonging
-to such shipps Owners And saith, that in the Brazeele Charterparties it is usuall
+to such shipps Owners And saith, That in the Brazeele Charterparties it is usuall
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 |Folio=185
 |Side=Recto
-|Status=XXXX; pasted into wikispot on 27/04/14 by Colin Greenstreet
+|Status=First cut transcription completed on 13/04/13 by Jill Wilcox; pasted into wikispot on 27/04/14 by Colin Greenstreet
-|First transcriber=Jill Wilcox 13/4/2013
+|First transcriber=Jill Wilcox 13/04/13
 |Editorial history=Created 05/04/14, by CSG
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 |Transcription image=1160864
-|Transcription=knoweth, both for that the like termes and allowances of such average have at is
+|Transcription=knoweth, both for that the like termes and allowances of such average have at
-Lisbone aforesaid by severall merchants been presented and proffered to this deponents
+Lisbone aforesaid by severall merchants been presented and proffered to this deponent
-in case hee would undertake such a voyage, and for that this deponents by longe
+in case hee would undertake such a Voyage, and for that this deponent by longe
-acquaintance and familiar conservation with merchants and masters of shipps
+acquaintance and familiar conservation with Merchants and Masters of shipps
 both English and Genoese hath constantly been credibly informed and assured of
-the trueth of the Customes and practice predeposed. And further cannot depose
+the trueth of the Custome and practice predeposed. And further cannot depose
-To the third Article hee saith that hee this deponents doeth not knowe nor ever heard
+To the third Article hee saith that hee this deponent doeth not knowe nor ever heard
-of any other allowances whatsoever ˹from the freightor˺ to English masters and Marinbers useing the
+of any other allowance whatsoever from the freightor to English Masters and Mariners useing the
 navigation aforesaid. save onely the allowance or average predeposed, and the
 priviledge or benefitt of the Cabbin allowed the Captaine for the transporting of
-passengers And other wise cannot depose.
+passengers And otherwise cannot depose:-/:-
 To the 4th Article of the said Allegation hee saith that in the moneth of November
-last past, the shipp the Hannibal of London whereof this deponent was
+<u>1655</u> last past, the shipp the ''hannibal'' of London whereof this deponent was
 and is Commander in chiefe being at Portsmouth then upon her discharge from
-the immediate service of the commonwealth wherein shee had bin employed under
+the immediate service of the Commonwealth wherein shee had bin employed under
 the conduct of this deponent and this deponent then being at London in Company and
-discourse at a sett meeting with the Owner of the said shipp and haveing a License
+discourse at a sett meeting with the Owner&#91;?s&#93; of the said shipp and haveing a License
-from the king of portugall to goe with his said shipp to the Brazeele, this
+from the king of Portugall to goe with his said shipp to the Brazeele, this
-deponent amoungst other things propounded to his said Owners a voiage with the said
+deponent amongst other things propounded to his said Owner&#91;?s&#93; a voiage with the said
 shipp to the said parts of Brazeele, if such an opportunity word offered, when
-hee should come to Lisborne, whereupon the said Owners demanded of this examinate
+hee should come to Lisborne, whereupon the said Owner&#91;?s&#93; demanded of this examinate
-what he would expect as to the average usually and constantly allowed to
+what hee would expect as to the average usually and constantly allowed to
-Commander upon such a voiage, to which this deponent replyed, that what was
+Commanders upon such a voiage, to which this deponent replyed, that what was
 Customary upon designes of that nature, hee should and would expect to the full,
 and that if any difference should happen about the said allowance or average
 hee would (God granting him a happy voiage and returne) referr the same to
-Justice, or to indifferent men to be determined , and the said Owners thereupon
+Justice, or to indifferent men to be determined , and the said Owner thereupon
-prepounding to this deponent to allow him a 4th part of such average and this examinate
+propounding to this deponent to allow him a 4th part of such average and this examinate
 refusing to goe upon such termes, the designe was broken off and the said shipp
 commanded for London. And further cannot depose./
 To the 5th Article hee saith that hee this deponent well knoweth, that the
-arlate Captaine Edward Wye Master of the shipp the Saphire arlate
+arlate Captaine Edward Wye Master of the shipp the ''Saphire'' arlate
-Captaine Peter Tatam master of the shipp the Hannibal arlate Captaine
+Captaine Peter Tatam master of the shipp the ''hannibal'' arlate Captaine
-William Cill Master of the shipp the Prosperous arlate, Captaine Thomas
+William Ell Master of the shipp the ''Prosperous'' arlate, Captaine Thomas
-Bll Master of the May fflower arlate and Captaine John Wills
+Bell Master of the ''May fflower'' arlate and Captaine John Wills
-Commander of the successe arlate were all of them designed upon the said
+Commander of the ''Successe'' arlate were all of them designed upon the said
 voyage to Brazeele, but what agreement they respectively made for their
 respective voyages thither hee saith hee knoweth not, nor can depose, otherwise
 then that this deponent hath heard the said Captaine Tatam, Captaine Bell and
-Captaine Wye say and affirme aboard this deponents shipp the Americe
+Captaine Wye say and affirme aboard this deponents shipp the ''America''
 in Cascales bay in Portugall, that they were to have the full average
 allowance and privilidge belonging and due to commanders of shipps goeing
-for the Brazeele. And further cannot depose: Saving his foregoeing deposition
+for the Brazeele. And further cannot depose; saving his foregoeing deposition
 To which hee referreth./
@@ Line 65: / Line 65: @@
 shipps hee knoweth), that in all ordinary Charterparties for other voyages
 and not for the Brazeele, it is usuall therein to expresse the freight in particular
-either by the tunn, or by the moneth or by the voiage, and that usually
+either by the tunn, or by the moneth or by the Voiage, and that usually
-primiage and average, and sometimes peciled manage accustomed have from time to time constantly
+primage and average, and sometimes &#91;?petilad&#93; moneye are expressed in such
-belonged XX and been received by the Masters and Companies of shipps and been
+Charterparties over and besides the said freight, which said Average,
-divided and distributed amongst them, the freight aforesaid onely belonging
+belonged and been received by the Masters and Companies of shipps, and were
 to such shipps Owners And saith, that in the Brazeele Charterparties it is usuall

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 |Transcription image=1160864
-|Transcription=1. knoweth, both for that the like termes and allowances of such average have at is
+|Transcription=knoweth, both for that the like termes and allowances of such average have at is
-. Lisbone aforesaid by severall merchants been presented and proffered to this deponents
+Lisbone aforesaid by severall merchants been presented and proffered to this deponents
-. in case hee would undertake such a voyage, and for that this deponents by longe
+in case hee would undertake such a voyage, and for that this deponents by longe
-. acquaintance and familiar conservation with merchants and masters of shipps
+acquaintance and familiar conservation with merchants and masters of shipps
-. both English and Genoese hath constantly been credibly informed and assured of
+both English and Genoese hath constantly been credibly informed and assured of
-. the trueth of the Customes and practice predeposed. And further cannot depose
+the trueth of the Customes and practice predeposed. And further cannot depose
-. To the third Article hee saith that hee this deponents doeth not knowe nor ever heard
+To the third Article hee saith that hee this deponents doeth not knowe nor ever heard
-. of any other allowances whatsoever ˹from the freightor˺ to English masters and Marinbers useing the
+of any other allowances whatsoever ˹from the freightor˺ to English masters and Marinbers useing the
-. navigation aforesaid. save onely the allowance or average predeposed, and the
+navigation aforesaid. save onely the allowance or average predeposed, and the
-. priviledge or benefitt of the Cabbin allowed the Captaine for the transporting of
+priviledge or benefitt of the Cabbin allowed the Captaine for the transporting of
-. passengers And other wise cannot depose.
+passengers And other wise cannot depose.
-. To the 4th Article of the said Allegation hee saith that in the moneth of November
+To the 4th Article of the said Allegation hee saith that in the moneth of November
-. 1655 last past, the shipp the Hannibal of London whereof this deponent was
+last past, the shipp the Hannibal of London whereof this deponent was
-. and is Commander in chiefe being at Portsmouth then upon her discharge from
+and is Commander in chiefe being at Portsmouth then upon her discharge from
-. the immediate service of the commonwealth wherein shee had bin employed under
+the immediate service of the commonwealth wherein shee had bin employed under
-. the conduct of this deponent and this deponent then being at London in Company and
+the conduct of this deponent and this deponent then being at London in Company and
-. discourse at a sett meeting with the Owner of the said shipp and haveing a License
+discourse at a sett meeting with the Owner of the said shipp and haveing a License
-. from the king of portugall to goe with his said shipp to the Brazeele, this
+from the king of portugall to goe with his said shipp to the Brazeele, this
-. deponent amoungst other things propounded to his said Owners a voiage with the said
+deponent amoungst other things propounded to his said Owners a voiage with the said
-. shipp to the said parts of Brazeele, if such an opportunity word offered, when
+shipp to the said parts of Brazeele, if such an opportunity word offered, when
-. hee should come to Lisborne, whereupon the said Owners demanded of this examinate
+hee should come to Lisborne, whereupon the said Owners demanded of this examinate
-. what he would expect as to the average usually and constantly allowed to
+what he would expect as to the average usually and constantly allowed to
-. Commander upon such a voiage, to which this deponent replyed, that what was
+Commander upon such a voiage, to which this deponent replyed, that what was
-. Customary upon designes of that nature, hee should and would expect to the full,
+Customary upon designes of that nature, hee should and would expect to the full,
-. and that if any difference should happen about the said allowance or average
+and that if any difference should happen about the said allowance or average
-. hee would (God granting him a happy voiage and returne) referr the same to
+hee would (God granting him a happy voiage and returne) referr the same to
-. Justice, or to indifferent men to be determined , and the said Owners thereupon
+Justice, or to indifferent men to be determined , and the said Owners thereupon
-. prepounding to this deponent to allow him a 4th part of such average and this examinate
+prepounding to this deponent to allow him a 4th part of such average and this examinate
-. refusing to goe upon such termes, the designe was broken off and the said shipp
+refusing to goe upon such termes, the designe was broken off and the said shipp
-. commanded for London. And further cannot depose./
+commanded for London. And further cannot depose./
-. To the 5th Article hee saith that hee this deponent well knoweth, that the
+To the 5th Article hee saith that hee this deponent well knoweth, that the
-. arlate Captaine Edward Wye Master of the shipp the Saphire arlate
+arlate Captaine Edward Wye Master of the shipp the Saphire arlate
-. Captaine Peter Tatam master of the shipp the Hannibal arlate Captaine
+Captaine Peter Tatam master of the shipp the Hannibal arlate Captaine
-. William Cill Master of the shipp the Prosperous arlate, Captaine Thomas
+William Cill Master of the shipp the Prosperous arlate, Captaine Thomas
-. Bll Master of the May fflower arlate and Captaine John Wills
+Bll Master of the May fflower arlate and Captaine John Wills
-. Commander of the successe arlate were all of them designed upon the said
+Commander of the successe arlate were all of them designed upon the said
-. voyage to Brazeele, but what agreement they respectively made for their
+voyage to Brazeele, but what agreement they respectively made for their
-. respective voyages thither hee saith hee knoweth not, nor can depose, otherwise
+respective voyages thither hee saith hee knoweth not, nor can depose, otherwise
-. then that this deponent hath heard the said Captaine Tatam, Captaine Bell and
+then that this deponent hath heard the said Captaine Tatam, Captaine Bell and
-. Captaine Wye say and affirme aboard this deponents shipp the Americe
+Captaine Wye say and affirme aboard this deponents shipp the Americe
-. in Cascales bay in Portugall, that they were to have the full average
+in Cascales bay in Portugall, that they were to have the full average
-. allowance and privilidge belonging and due to commanders of shipps goeing
+allowance and privilidge belonging and due to commanders of shipps goeing
-. for the Brazeele. And further cannot depose: Saving his foregoeing deposition
+for the Brazeele. And further cannot depose: Saving his foregoeing deposition
-. To which hee referreth./
+To which hee referreth./
-. To the 6th Article hee saith, that by reason of his long continued experience in
+To the 6th Article hee saith, that by reason of his long continued experience in
-. matters of Contracts and Charteparties between Merchants and Masters of
+matters of Contracts and Charteparties between Merchants and Masters of
-. shipps hee knoweth), that in all ordinary Charterparties for other voyages
+shipps hee knoweth), that in all ordinary Charterparties for other voyages
-. and not for the Brazeele, it is usuall therein to expresse the freight in particular
+and not for the Brazeele, it is usuall therein to expresse the freight in particular
-. either by the tunn, or by the moneth or by the voiage, and that usually
+either by the tunn, or by the moneth or by the voiage, and that usually
-. primiage and average, and sometimes peciled manage accustomed have from time to time constantly
+primiage and average, and sometimes peciled manage accustomed have from time to time constantly
-. belonged XX and been received by the Masters and Companies of shipps and been
+belonged XX and been received by the Masters and Companies of shipps and been
-. divided and distributed amongst them, the freight aforesaid onely belonging
+divided and distributed amongst them, the freight aforesaid onely belonging
-. to such shipps Owners And saith, that in the Brazeele Charterparties it is usuall
+to such shipps Owners And saith, that in the Brazeele Charterparties it is usuall
 |Suggested links=[https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AoNoOr05QRMtdHAyNmxuVnNmYkJ3Q0ZiNEQ0R0V2S3c#gid=0 HCA 13/71 Page Log & Planner]