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	==Language and identity==		==Language and identity==

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	* "to be transported thense to TundrXXX in holstein in the dominion or Territories of the Duke of holstein"; knows it is "accustomed for Marchants and others to buy horses in Norway, and transport them from Berghen into Holstein land, and saith the said Andrew hayer liveth at Yinderua in holstein land aforesaid in the territories of the said Duke"; "About five yeares since Swedes fell into the said dukedome of holstein and carried thense almsot all the horses of the countrey"<ref>[HCA 13/65 f.71r P1170516]</ref>		* "to be transported thense to TundrXXX in holstein in the dominion or Territories of the Duke of holstein"; knows it is "accustomed for Marchants and others to buy horses in Norway, and transport them from Berghen into Holstein land, and saith the said Andrew hayer liveth at Yinderua in holstein land aforesaid in the territories of the said Duke"; "About five yeares since Swedes fell into the said dukedome of holstein and carried thense almsot all the horses of the countrey"<ref>[HCA 13/65 f.71r P1170516]</ref>
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		+	* "of Housum in the Dukedom of holstein"<ref>[http://marinelives-transcript.org/scripto/scripto/?scripto_action=transcribe&scripto_doc_id=2429&scripto_doc_page_id=2545 HCA 13/72 f.90v P1170516]</ref>

	* Did the concept of "Holsteinland" extend beyond the Dukedom of Holstein, or did the Dukedom of Holstein lie within the Kingdom of Denmark? See: "Of Sondersea?in holsteinland in the Dominion of the kinge of Denmarke"<ref>[HCA 13/65 f.? P1170854]</ref>		* Did the concept of "Holsteinland" extend beyond the Dukedom of Holstein, or did the Dukedom of Holstein lie within the Kingdom of Denmark? See: "Of Sondersea?in holsteinland in the Dominion of the kinge of Denmarke"<ref>[HCA 13/65 f.? P1170854]</ref>

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-==Ships with owners and freighters from several countries==
+===Ships with owners and freighters from several countries===
-"the said shipp the ''Saint ffrancis'' doth belong unto the Port of Marseilla in ffrance some of the Owners whereof and of the lading therein doe live and inhabit and have theire families in Marseillas and are ffrench and Subiects of the king of ffrance and others are Inhabitants att Lygorne and Italians by Birth"<ref>[HCA 13/65 f.? P1180106]</ref>
+Ships crews often contained members from several countries.  Although it is not yet possible to quantify this statement, a fair number of deponents comment on the country or port of origin of crew members.
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 ==Absence of debt as a source of status?==
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 * "Hee cometh requested by Mr Southwood to testifie the truth of his knowledge in this cause for which hee neither hath receaved or Expecteth to receave any consideration save only for his losse of tyme but who must pay him for that hee hee yet knoweth not And saith hee is worth more than hee oweth And liveth in kingstreete in Stepney parishe where hee hath lived by the space of about three yeares and before that dwelt neere the Hermitage and in the parishe of Saint Catherine and getteth his liveing by unladeing of shipps which deliver theire ladeing in the River of Thames and saith hee is a howse=keeper and payeth all manner of dutyes and Taxes which are usually levied either for Church Poore, or the Army according as hee is assessed"<ref>[HCA 13/65 f.? P1180459]</ref>
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	In a further example, the forty-four year old mariner George Clarke, was simply "of the Iland of Barbados"<ref>[HCA 13/65 f.? P1170983]</ref>		In a further example, the forty-four year old mariner George Clarke, was simply "of the Iland of Barbados"<ref>[HCA 13/65 f.? P1170983]</ref>
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		+	==Ships with owners and freighters from several countries==
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	"the said shipp the ''Saint ffrancis'' doth belong unto the Port of Marseilla in ffrance some of the Owners whereof and of the lading therein doe live and inhabit and have theire families in Marseillas and are ffrench and Subiects of the king of ffrance and others are Inhabitants att Lygorne and Italians by Birth"<ref>[HCA 13/65 f.? P1180106]</ref>		"the said shipp the ''Saint ffrancis'' doth belong unto the Port of Marseilla in ffrance some of the Owners whereof and of the lading therein doe live and inhabit and have theire families in Marseillas and are ffrench and Subiects of the king of ffrance and others are Inhabitants att Lygorne and Italians by Birth"<ref>[HCA 13/65 f.? P1180106]</ref>

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 In another example, George Steward, a mariner and carpenter of the Elizabeth and Mary stated that he was: "now of Shadwell but late of Invernesse in Scotland"<ref>[http://marinelives-transcript.org/scripto/scripto/?scripto_action=transcribe&scripto_doc_id=2045&scripto_doc_page_id=2340 HCA 13/72 f.13r P1140933]</ref>
-In a further example, the forty-four year old mariner George Clarke, was "of the Iland of Barbados"<ref>[HCA 13/65 f.? P1170983]</ref>
+In a further example, the forty-four year old mariner George Clarke, was simply "of the Iland of Barbados"<ref>[HCA 13/65 f.? P1170983]</ref>
 "the said shipp the ''Saint ffrancis'' doth belong unto the Port of Marseilla in ffrance some of the Owners whereof and of the lading therein doe live and inhabit and have theire families in Marseillas and are ffrench and Subiects of the king of ffrance and others are Inhabitants att Lygorne and Italians by Birth"<ref>[HCA 13/65 f.? P1180106]</ref>

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	In another example, George Steward, a mariner and carpenter of the Elizabeth and Mary stated that he was: "now of Shadwell but late of Invernesse in Scotland"<ref>[http://marinelives-transcript.org/scripto/scripto/?scripto_action=transcribe&scripto_doc_id=2045&scripto_doc_page_id=2340 HCA 13/72 f.13r P1140933]</ref>		In another example, George Steward, a mariner and carpenter of the Elizabeth and Mary stated that he was: "now of Shadwell but late of Invernesse in Scotland"<ref>[http://marinelives-transcript.org/scripto/scripto/?scripto_action=transcribe&scripto_doc_id=2045&scripto_doc_page_id=2340 HCA 13/72 f.13r P1140933]</ref>
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		+	In a further example, the forty-four year old mariner George Clarke, was "of the Iland of Barbados"<ref>[HCA 13/65 f.? P1170983]</ref>

	"the said shipp the ''Saint ffrancis'' doth belong unto the Port of Marseilla in ffrance some of the Owners whereof and of the lading therein doe live and inhabit and have theire families in Marseillas and are ffrench and Subiects of the king of ffrance and others are Inhabitants att Lygorne and Italians by Birth"<ref>[HCA 13/65 f.? P1180106]</ref>		"the said shipp the ''Saint ffrancis'' doth belong unto the Port of Marseilla in ffrance some of the Owners whereof and of the lading therein doe live and inhabit and have theire families in Marseillas and are ffrench and Subiects of the king of ffrance and others are Inhabitants att Lygorne and Italians by Birth"<ref>[HCA 13/65 f.? P1180106]</ref>

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	"''shipp of Amsterdam called the ''Moone'' commanded by Gavart Reael bound for Sally in Barbary whither this deponent went to redeeme one William ff?earne a Captaine''"<ref>[HCA 13/65 f.? P1170637]</ref>		"''shipp of Amsterdam called the ''Moone'' commanded by Gavart Reael bound for Sally in Barbary whither this deponent went to redeeme one William ff?earne a Captaine''"<ref>[HCA 13/65 f.? P1170637]</ref>
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		+	<u>Are there differences in how mariners and merchants of different countries use geographical terminology?</u>
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		+	CHECK THE FOLLOWING REFERENCE: ?French owned ship set sail from Lygorne bound for Alexandria "on the Coast of Scanderon in Barbary"<ref>[HCA 13/65 f.? P1180107]</ref>

	'''East Country'''		'''East Country'''