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|Person=John Page (b. ca. 1630)
|First name=John
|Last name=Page
|Occupation=Mariner
|Mariner occupation=Gunner, One of the Company
|Training=Not apprentice
|Citizen=Unknown
|Literacy=Signature
|Has opening text=John Page
|Has signoff text=John Page
|Transcription image={{#transcription-image: }}
|Language skills=English language,
|Res town=Aldeburgh
|Res county=Suffolk
|Res country=England
|Birth year=1630
|First deposition age=24
|Deposition start page(s)=HCA 13/70 f.27r Annotate,
|Deposition date(s)=Nov 24 1630
|Has infobox completed=Yes
|Has synthesis completed=No
|Has HCA evidence completed=No
|Has source comment completed=No
|Type of ship=Coal ship
|Role in Silver Ship litigation=None
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==Biographical synthesis==
John Page (b. ca. 1630; d. ?). Mariner.

Gunner of the ''Mary''.<ref>[[HCA 13/70 f.28r Annotate|HCA 13/70 f.28r]]</ref>

"One of the Companie of the said vessell the ''Mary'' (Master Robert Yaxley)" (in October 1654)<ref>[[HCA 13/70 f.27v Annotate|HCA 13/70 f.27v]]</ref>

Resident in 1654 in Aldeburgh in the county of Suffolk.

"Being a native of Alborough aforesaid, and haveing there resided from his infancie, and thereby having good knowledge both of the said shipp and owners".<ref>[[HCA 13/70 f.27r Annotate|HCA 13/70 f.27r]]</ref>

==Evidence from High Court of Admiralty==
Twenty-four year old John Page deposed on November 24th 1654 in the High Court of Admiralty. He was examined on an allegation on behalf of Yaxley Blowers and Company in the cause of "Robert Yaxley George Blowers, Arthur Blowers and Companie owners of the shipp the ''Mary'' of Alborough against the shipp the ''Freeman'', John Whitty master and her tackle and ffurniture and against Thomas Delabarr and others".<ref>[[HCA 13/70 f.27r Annotate|HCA 13/70 f.27r]]</ref>

John Page described the coal ship the ''Mary'' of Aldeburgh coming into the River Thames on October 26th 1654with a lading of coals from Newcastle. "Comeing up the River of Thames in the Long-reach alias Gallions reach, and the said vessell the ''Freeman'' at the same time comeing downe the sayd river, the wind then being West-South-West, which was as favourable a Wind as could be desired, together with the conveniencie of roome enough for the said vessell the ''Freeman'' and the Companie to have passed by the said shipp Mary without endammageing her in the least".<ref>[[HCA 13/70 f.27r Annotate|HCA 13/70 f.27r]]</ref>

Page claimed that the ''Freeman'' wilfully ran the ''Mary'' on board and "y the meanes of such their violent tunning on board the said shipp ''Mary'', breake her maine mast, maine topp, maine yard, foreyard, her maine shrowds, two of her foreshrowds her missen topp mast, and cracked her misen mast, spoyled her maine stay in two places, and brake one side of the said shipp the ''Mary'' downe to the water, and rent her foresaile and maine topsaile, and much deteriorated her new mayne saile, and very much damnified all the small rigging of the said shipp ''Mary''".<ref>[[HCA 13/70 f.27v Annotate|HCA 13/70 f.27v]]</ref>

Colourfully, Page recalled the master of the ''Freeman'' crying out whilst standing on the forecastle of his ship:

:"You colliers doggs I had not cared if I had sunke you".
Page estimated the damage casued to the ''Mary'' at £200 " hee haveing for 12. yeares last past continually frequented the sea as a Mariner and knowing the valew of such tackle and furniture and dammages so sustained as aforesaid".

The ''Mary'' was "a vessell constantly employed upon voyages to fetch coales from the port of New Castle to this port of London, And that by reason of the dammage predeposed, the said shipp ''Mary'' hath bin and is still necessitated to lye neere the said River of Thames at the New Crane to be repaired, and by meanes thereof hath lost her employment which shee otherwise might have had upon a colliers voyage to Newcastle aforesaid which in all probability shee might have performed, aswell as other shipps have done in that time of this deponents certaine knowledge. And saith that hee verily beleeveth and is convinced in judgement that the owners of the said shipp by meanes of her retardment from the said voyage have suffered dammage in that particular to the cleare valew of fifty pounds sterling or thereabouts".<ref>[[HCA 13/70 f.27v Annotate|HCA 13/70 f.27v]]</ref>

==Comment on sources==

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 Twenty-four year old John Page deposed on November 24th 1654 in the High Court of Admiralty. He was examined on an allegation on behalf of Yaxley Blowers and Company in the cause of "Robert Yaxley George Blowers, Arthur Blowers and Companie owners of the shipp the ''Mary'' of Alborough against the shipp the ''Freeman'', John Whitty master and her tackle and ffurniture and against Thomas Delabarr and others".<ref>[[HCA 13/70 f.27r Annotate|HCA 13/70 f.27r]]</ref>
-John Page described the coal ship the ''Mary'' of Aldeburgh coming into the River Thames on October 26th 1654with a lading of coals from Newcastle. "Comeing up the River of Thames in the Long-reach alias Gallions reach, and the said vessell the ''Freeman'' at the same time comeing downe the sayd river, the wind then being West-South-West, which was as favourable a Wind as could be desired, together with the conveniencie of roome enough for the said vessell the ''Freeman'' and the Companie to have passed by the said shipp Mary without endammageing her in the least".<ref>[[HCA 13/70 f.27r Annotate|HCA 13/70 f.27r]]</ref>
+John Page described the coal ship the ''Mary'' of Aldeburgh coming into the River Thames on October 26th 1654 with a lading of coals from Newcastle. "Comeing up the River of Thames in the Long-reach alias Gallions reach, and the said vessell the ''Freeman'' at the same time comeing downe the sayd river, the wind then being West-South-West, which was as favourable a Wind as could be desired, together with the conveniencie of roome enough for the said vessell the ''Freeman'' and the Companie to have passed by the said shipp Mary without endammageing her in the least".<ref>[[HCA 13/70 f.27r Annotate|HCA 13/70 f.27r]]</ref>
 Page claimed that the ''Freeman'' wilfully ran the ''Mary'' on board and "y the meanes of such their violent tunning on board the said shipp ''Mary'', breake her maine mast, maine topp, maine yard, foreyard, her maine shrowds, two of her foreshrowds her missen topp mast, and cracked her misen mast, spoyled her maine stay in two places, and brake one side of the said shipp the ''Mary'' downe to the water, and rent her foresaile and maine topsaile, and much deteriorated her new mayne saile, and very much damnified all the small rigging of the said shipp ''Mary''".<ref>[[HCA 13/70 f.27v Annotate|HCA 13/70 f.27v]]</ref>
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 :"You colliers doggs I had not cared if I had sunke you".
-Page estimated the damage casued to the ''Mary'' at £200 " hee haveing for 12. yeares last past continually frequented the sea as a Mariner and knowing the valew of such tackle and furniture and dammages so sustained as aforesaid".
+Page estimated the damage casued to the ''Mary'' at £200 "hee haveing for 12. yeares last past continually frequented the sea as a Mariner and knowing the valew of such tackle and furniture and dammages so sustained as aforesaid".
 The ''Mary'' was "a vessell constantly employed upon voyages to fetch coales from the port of New Castle to this port of London, And that by reason of the dammage predeposed, the said shipp ''Mary'' hath bin and is still necessitated to lye neere the said River of Thames at the New Crane to be repaired, and by meanes thereof hath lost her employment which shee otherwise might have had upon a colliers voyage to Newcastle aforesaid which in all probability shee might have performed, aswell as other shipps have done in that time of this deponents certaine knowledge. And saith that hee verily beleeveth and is convinced in judgement that the owners of the said shipp by meanes of her retardment from the said voyage have suffered dammage in that particular to the cleare valew of fifty pounds sterling or thereabouts".<ref>[[HCA 13/70 f.27v Annotate|HCA 13/70 f.27v]]</ref>
 ==Comment on sources==