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==C 22/968/8 f. 1==

C 22/968/8 is a parchment document which has been intricately folded and required unfolding. It consists of two double sided pages, constituting two folios but four sides of text. The first page of the first folio consists of interogatories. The first page of the second folio consists of depositions by witnesses. The first folio is ca. 9in x 18in, with text fully down first side and half of the second side. The second folio is slightly wider and slightly longer. There is attached and on top of the first folio a scrap of parchment, written in English, which is illegible. It has 8 lines and is dated ??7 (or another day) November 1653.

===Abstract===

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===Notes (rather than transcription)===

Interogatory 1

Do you know the defts and plaintiff, how, and for how long and what do you know of their character?

Interogatory 3

Do you know what securitie or securities the deft.t gave unto the complainant?
Did you see a bond signed sealed and delivered?

Interogatory 4

Do you know the following messuages?
“Chequers” and “Cross Keys”?
A messuage in “Painters Lane”?

Interogatory 5

Do you know the “Sign of the Sugar Loaf”in Shorne?
“and thither in the high streete there towards the greate bridge”
“the signe of the golden cocke”
“the three dawes & fower Cottages & sixteene acres of land & five acres of wood...in the pishes of S:t Margarett & XXXX”
“the pcell of meadowe ground called the ??dye”
Do you know them and “what they are worth to be lett or lett by the yeare in your judgement & esteeme, or what do you paie yearely for the same or anie of them”?
What money have you paid to Thomas Stanley before the the same?
Were the buildings in good repair?

Interogatory 6

Do you know a messsauge & brewhouse & sveerall parcels of land in Chatham & Gillingham “which the defendant Barnabas Walsall held by Lease from Maximillian (sic) Dallison”Esq:r?
What is the rental value of these premises in your judgement or direct experience?
Refers to the sale by the sheriffs (I think of the brewhouse) (what is this about??)

Interogatory 7

Do you know “what howsholdstuffe leases debts or other chattells the def:t Walsall was possessed of immediately before, or at the tyme of the takeing of the Inquisition w:ch was about May 1651 or at anie tyme since”?
Do aou know what goods chattells debts or howsholdstuffe in the howse of Thomas Stanley actually belonged to Barnabas Walsall?
“What was the true & real value of them”?

Interogatory 8

Do you know the messuage Brewhowse Bakehowse & premises which the def:t Walsall had leased from the def:t Thomas Stanley?
At the time Walsalltook the lease from Stanley what sort of quantity of malt & other corn & grainwas in the premises? And what hopps caskes & utensils for brewing & bakeing were there?
“What was the said stock really worth & was it worth 1820:ll xxx xxx”?
Was the building not in good repair when Walsall took it over?
Refers to “copper tuns casks hopps corne xxxx debts oweing creditors other utensils of brewing”
What were the debts made over by Thomas Stanley to Walsall when Walsall took over the brewery? “and wer not manie of them desperate & almost altogether lost & irrecoverable by the said Barnabas Walsall”?
“Declare what you know or have credibly heard”

Interogatory 9

What sums of money did you pay Thomas Stanley and were any of these payments for estate belonging to Walsall?

[f. 1, p.2]

Interogatory 10

What do you know of any messuages howses lands pastures or woodlands which Walsall holds since December 1634 of the feoffees or trustees s of or for the great bridge of Rochester?
Where are or were they and what true value?

Interogatory 11

Have you or anyone else to your knowledge bought property from Thomas Stanley which was part of the estate of Walsall, and if so what and where and to what rental value?

Interogatory 12

Were you present at or have you credibly heard of a meeting in September 1650 when Walsall by deed made over to Thomas Stanley “in debts due & oweing to him the said Walsall 800:ll & certaine quantities of hoopes & hopps at & for the price of 58:ll 3:s & certaine ?profitts on casks (that is to say hogsheads) barrowes & xxxxkins & at the price of 69:ll & five horses drayes & harnesses & certain howsholdstuffe & lumber comprised in a schedule annexed & affixed to the said deed”?
Was the said deeed made and were the specified goods sold & delivered by Walsall to Stanley?
“in full satisfaction & dischardge of the said xxx...or was it done but in part paiement thereof”
Refers to a 3000:ll penalty (which I don’t understand)
“was not the same done on purpose to defraud or otherwise to enforce the Comp:lt & other the creditors of the said Walsall to ?price ??asurable composicions for ever xxiust debts speak what you know...

Interogatory 13
Did you heretofore know Walsall in Maidstone and “did not he then live iin a plentiful manner & in great esteeme & did not the other def:t Thomas Stanley then size and take all his the said Walsall estate & xxx force the creditors of Walsall to come to some unreasonable composition, how manie tymes before this tyme did the said Walsall fall into ?such decay & composicion made, him in a most plentifull manner & greate esteeme , and hath not he since bine mkaior once or twice of the cittie of Rochester...and in what condicion doe he & his familie nowe live as you knowe beleive or have heard.”?

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===Commentary===

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 ==Suggested links==
-See [[MRP: C 22/968/8 f. 2|C 22/968/8 f. 2]]
+See [[MRP: C 22/968/8 f. 2|C 22/968/8 f. 2]] (Depositions made in response to interrogatories in C 22/968/8 f. 1)
 See biographical profile of [[MRP: Thomas Stanley|Thomas Stanley]]
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 C 22/968/8 is a parchment document which has been intricately folded and required unfolding.  It consists of two double sided pages, constituting two folios but four sides of text.  The first page of the first folio consists of interogatories.  The first page of the second folio consists of depositions by witnesses.  The first folio is ca. 9in x 18in, with text fully down first side  and half of the second side.  The second folio is slightly wider and slightly longer.  There is attached and on top of the first folio a scrap of parchment, written in English, which is illegible. It has 8 lines and is dated ??7 (or another day) November 1653.
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-===Abstract===
+===Abstract & context===

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	Did you heretofore know Walsall in Maidstone and “did not he then live iin a plentiful manner & in great esteeme & did not the other def:t Thomas Stanley then size and take all his the said Walsall estate & xxx force the creditors of Walsall to come to some unreasonable composition, how manie tymes before this tyme did the said Walsall fall into ?such decay & composicion made, him in a most plentifull manner & greate esteeme , and hath not he since bine mkaior once or twice of the cittie of Rochester...and in what condicion doe he & his familie nowe live as you knowe beleive or have heard.”?		Did you heretofore know Walsall in Maidstone and “did not he then live iin a plentiful manner & in great esteeme & did not the other def:t Thomas Stanley then size and take all his the said Walsall estate & xxx force the creditors of Walsall to come to some unreasonable composition, how manie tymes before this tyme did the said Walsall fall into ?such decay & composicion made, him in a most plentifull manner & greate esteeme , and hath not he since bine mkaior once or twice of the cittie of Rochester...and in what condicion doe he & his familie nowe live as you knowe beleive or have heard.”?

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-==C 22/968/8 f. 1==
+'''C 22/968/8 f. 1'''
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-===Document condition===
 C 22/968/8 is a parchment document which has been intricately folded and required unfolding.  It consists of two double sided pages, constituting two folios but four sides of text.  The first page of the first folio consists of interogatories.  The first page of the second folio consists of depositions by witnesses.  The first folio is ca. 9in x 18in, with text fully down first side  and half of the second side.  The second folio is slightly wider and slightly longer.  There is attached and on top of the first folio a scrap of parchment, written in English, which is illegible. It has 8 lines and is dated ??7 (or another day) November 1653.
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 ===Abstract===
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 ===Notes (rather than transcription)===
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 Do you know the following messuages?
 “Chequers” and “Cross Keys”?
- A messuage in “Painters Lane”?
+A messuage in “Painters Lane”?
 '''Interogatory 5'''
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 Were you present at or have you credibly heard of a meeting in September 1650 when Walsall  by deed made over to Thomas Stanley  “in debts due & oweing  to him the said Walsall 800:ll & certaine quantities of hoopes & hopps at & for the price of 58:ll 3:s & certaine ?profitts on casks (that is to say hogsheads) barrowes  & xxxxkins & at the price of 69:ll & five  horses drayes & harnesses & certain howsholdstuffe  & lumber comprised in a schedule  annexed & affixed to the said deed”?
 Was the said deeed made and were the specified goods sold & delivered by Walsall to Stanley?
- “in full satisfaction & dischardge of the said  xxx...or was it done but in part paiement thereof”
+“in full satisfaction & dischardge of the said  xxx...or was it done but in part paiement thereof”
 Refers to a 3000:ll penalty (which I don’t understand)
 “was not the same done on purpose to defraud or otherwise to enforce the Comp:lt & other the creditors of the said Walsall to ?price ??asurable composicions for ever  xxiust debts  speak what you know...
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-===Commentary===
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 C 22/968/8 is a parchment document which has been intricately folded and required unfolding.  It consists of two double sided pages, constituting two folios but four sides of text.  The first page of the first folio consists of interogatories.  The first page of the second folio consists of depositions by witnesses.  The first folio is ca. 9in x 18in, with text fully down first side  and half of the second side.  The second folio is slightly wider and slightly longer.  There is attached and on top of the first folio a scrap of parchment, written in English, which is illegible. It has 8 lines and is dated ??7 (or another day) November 1653.
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 ===Abstract===
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 ===Notes (rather than transcription)===
-Interogatory 1
+'''Interogatory 1'''
 Do you know the defts and plaintiff, how, and for how long and what do you know of their character?
-Interogatory 3
+'''Interogatory 3'''
 Do you know what securitie or securities the deft.t gave unto the complainant?
 Did you see a bond signed sealed and delivered?
-Interogatory 4
+'''Interogatory 4'''
 Do you know the following messuages?
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   A messuage in “Painters Lane”?
-Interogatory 5
+'''Interogatory 5'''
-Do you know the “Sign of the Sugar Loaf”in Shorne?
+Do you know the “Sign of the Sugar Loaf” in Shorne?
 “and thither in the high streete there towards the greate bridge”
 “the signe of the golden cocke”
-“the three dawes & fower  Cottages & sixteene acres of land  & five acres of wood...in the pishes of S:t Margarett & XXXX”
+“the three dawes & fower  Cottages & sixteene acres of land & five acres of wood...in the pishes of S:t Margarett & XXXX”
 “the pcell of meadowe ground called the ??dye”
-Do you know them and “what they are worth to be lett or lett by the  yeare in your judgement & esteeme, or what do you paie yearely for the same or anie of them”?
+Do you know them and “what they are worth to be lett or lett by the yeare in your judgement & esteeme, or what do you paie yearely for the same or anie of them”?
 What money have you paid to Thomas Stanley before the the same?
 Were the buildings in good repair?
-Interogatory 6
+'''Interogatory 6'''
 Do you know a messsauge & brewhouse & sveerall parcels of land in Chatham & Gillingham “which the defendant Barnabas Walsall held by Lease from Maximillian (sic) Dallison”Esq:r?
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 Refers to the sale by the sheriffs (I think of the brewhouse) (what is this about??)
-Interogatory 7
+'''Interogatory 7'''
 Do you know “what howsholdstuffe leases debts or other chattells the def:t Walsall was possessed of immediately  before, or at the tyme of the takeing of the Inquisition w:ch was about May  1651 or at anie tyme since”?
@@ Line 47: / Line 47: @@
 “What was the true & real value of them”?
-Interogatory 8
+'''Interogatory 8'''
 Do you know the messuage Brewhowse Bakehowse  & premises which the def:t Walsall had leased from the def:t Thomas Stanley?
@@ Line 57: / Line 57: @@
 “Declare what you know or have credibly heard”
-Interogatory 9
+'''Interogatory 9'''
 What sums of money did you pay Thomas Stanley and were any of these payments for estate belonging to Walsall?
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 [f. 1, p.2]
-Interogatory 10
+'''Interogatory 10'''
-What do you know of any messuages  howses lands pastures  or woodlands which Walsall holds since December 1634 of the feoffees or trustees s of or for the great bridge of Rochester?
+What do you know of any messuages  howses lands pastures or woodlands which Walsall holds since December 1634 of the feoffees or trustees s of or for the great bridge of Rochester?
 Where are or were they and what true value?
-Interogatory 11
+'''Interogatory 11'''
 Have you or anyone else to your knowledge bought property from Thomas Stanley which was part of the estate of Walsall, and if so what and where and to what rental value?
-Interogatory 12
+'''Interogatory 12'''
 Were you present at or have you credibly heard of a meeting in September 1650 when Walsall  by deed made over to Thomas Stanley  “in debts due & oweing  to him the said Walsall 800:ll & certaine quantities of hoopes & hopps at & for the price of 58:ll 3:s & certaine ?profitts on casks (that is to say hogsheads) barrowes  & xxxxkins & at the price of 69:ll & five  horses drayes & harnesses & certain howsholdstuffe  & lumber comprised in a schedule  annexed & affixed to the said deed”?
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 “was not the same done on purpose to defraud or otherwise to enforce the Comp:lt & other the creditors of the said Walsall to ?price ??asurable composicions for ever  xxiust debts  speak what you know...
-Interogatory 13
+'''Interogatory 13'''
 Did you heretofore know Walsall in Maidstone and “did not he then live iin a plentiful manner & in great esteeme & did not the other def:t Thomas Stanley then size and take all his the said Walsall estate & xxx force the creditors of Walsall to come to some unreasonable composition, how manie tymes before this tyme did the said Walsall fall into ?such decay & composicion made,  him in a  most plentifull manner & greate esteeme , and hath not he since bine mkaior once or twice of the cittie of Rochester...and in what condicion doe he & his familie nowe live as you knowe beleive or have heard.”?