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 ==Choice of direct or indirect navigational course==

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 . precontests John Prentise and John Thomas) acknowledging that hee had never
 . bin there but onse, and that many yeares before the voyage in question, and that
-. hee was not well acquainted with the barr of the sayd harbour of Porto Port ˹for that the barr did often after as wynde and weather occasioned˺ and
+. hee was not well acquainted with the barr of the sayd harbour of Porto Port ˹for that the barr did often alter as wynde and weather occasioned˺ and
 . therefore had durst not adventure in without helpe of a pylott, And hee saith that
 . to that purpose the sayd Jeggles in the tyme hee beate soe up and downe at sea

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 ==Need for a pilot==
 John Thomas was the surgeon on the ''Anne'' of London.  He admitted in his evidence that he was "noe sea man" and could not judge the difficulty of getting into Porto in Portugal. Neverthless, he had heard that all ships entering that port "doe make use of a Pylott skilled in these parts for enterance there.˺

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-John Thomas was the surgeon on the Anne of London.  He admitted in his evidence that he was "noe sea man" and could not judge the difficulty of getting into Porto in Portugal. Neverthless, he had heard that all ships entering that port "doe make use of a Pylott skilled in these parts for enterance there.˺
+John Thomas was the surgeon on the ''Anne'' of London.  He admitted in his evidence that he was "noe sea man" and could not judge the difficulty of getting into Porto in Portugal. Neverthless, he had heard that all ships entering that port "doe make use of a Pylott skilled in these parts for enterance there.˺
 * "37. To the 3 hee saith hee was never at Porto Port before the voyage

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 - ''HCA 13/71 f.30r: Case: XXXX XXXX and others against XXXX XXXX and others ("Examined upon the sayd allegation"); Deposition: 2. Captaine Thomas Chinn of Shadwell in the County of Middlesex Mariner aged 40; Date: 04/03/1655(56). Transcribed by Colin Greenstreet''<ref>[http://marinelives-transcript.org/scripto/?p=4&scripto_action=transcribe&scripto_doc_id=58&scripto_doc_page_id=140 HCA 13/71 f.30r]</ref>
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 . did come, And further saveing his foregoeing deposition hee cannot answere"
-- ''HCA 13/71 f.460v Case: XXXX; Deposition: XXXX; Date: XXXX. Transcribed by XXXX''<ref>[HCA 13/71 f.460v]</ref>
+- ''HCA 13/71 f.460v Case: James Cowse against daniel Jeggles Master of the Anne of London; Deposition: Deposition of John Thomas ("hee goeing Chirurgion"); Date: XXXX. Transcribed by David Pashley''<ref>[http://marinelives-transcript.org/scripto/scripto/?scripto_action=transcribe&scripto_doc_id=909&scripto_doc_page_id=1028 HCA 13/71 f.460v]</ref>
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-* 4. George Dawny late servant to Mathias Hatton of the Tower Libertie London, Compasse Maker, aged 23 yeeres
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-- ''HCA 13/71 f.409v Case: XXwards and others against the XXXamberline and hill ("Examined upon the fore said Libell"); Deposition: 4. George Dawny late servant to Mathias Hatton of the Tower Libertie London, Compasse Maker, aged 23 yeeres: Date: 12/11/1656''<ref>[http://marinelives-transcript.org/scripto/scripto/?scripto_action=transcribe&scripto_doc_id=903&scripto_doc_page_id=996 HCA 13/71 f.409v]</ref>
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-* "there is noe doubt but that it often happens that shipps sayling from the Road of Salina meet with crosse and contrary winds so as they cannot hold the direct Course, but must and doe sayle this way and that way as they may to gett advantage of wind. And he saith that in turning to and fro the whole traverse may happen to be or contayne one hundred or more leagues more than the Course in a direct lyne when the wind is favourable, howbeit he saith the sayd traverse may and ought to be made as neere the direct line as may be and never to exceed six eight or ten leagues ˹or thereabouts from the latitude which is direct˺ to the intent that when the wind proves good the shipp may still be in her ready way homewards to take advantage of it, which if she sayle and hundred or more leagues from the direct Course she cannot doe"
+Thomas Chinn, captain of the Thomas Bonadventure, testified as to navigational chocies to be made in the Mediterranean when sailing from Cyprus. At issue was whether it was common and sensible to take a direct course from Cyprus to the straights of Gibraltar, or to proceed indirctly via Zant.
-- ''HCA 13/71 f.30r: Case: XXXX; Deposition: 2. Captaine Thomas Chinn of Shadwell in the County of Middlesex Mariner aged 40''<ref>[http://marinelives-transcript.org/scripto/?p=4&scripto_action=transcribe&scripto_doc_id=58&scripto_doc_page_id=140 HCA 13/71 f.30r]</ref>
+* "38. .......................................................And there is noe doubt but that
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 ==Pilot's right of sole command==
-'''Disagreement between Pilot and Captain, leading to grounding on mud flats'''
+'''Disagreement between Pilot and Captain, leading to grounding on Thames estuary mud flats'''
 The case of William Wilkinson against James Warren dealt with the right of a Pilot to sole command of his ship.  James Warren had been hired as Pilot of the ship the Exchange to conduct the ship from the Port of London to the Downes.