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 [http://www.tei-c.org/index.xml TEI: Text Encoding Initiative]
 [http://www.tei-c.org/Guidelines/Customization/Lite/ TEI Lite]
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 ==Tasks for the week==

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 I have begun reading up on TEI, but I am a complete novice. When you have time, you might like to look at:
-TEI: Text Encoding Initiative
+[http://www.tei-c.org/index.xml TEI: Text Encoding Initiative]
-[WWW]TEI Lite
+[http://www.tei-c.org/index.xml TEI Lite]
 I need further convincing of Patrizia's assertion that "Callice in France" is one place not two places which are linked in the mind of the deponent (and scribe). We need to be careful of having the database drive the linking of "Callice" to "France" since the fact that the deponent speaks of "Callice" as being in France is in itself interesting (as opposed to Callice in Europe, or Callice in Northern France.  This is particularly important if we want (as I do) to use the geographical coding to explore how people spoke and conceptualised about geographical (and social space). I have seen Barbados described as "in America" and "in the Caribee". I have seen "Lima" described as "in America" etc.
-But I am posting everything of importance to a new Team Giovanni/Patrizia discussion area: Team Giovanni/Patrizia
+But I am posting everything of importance to a new Team Giovanni/Patrizia discussion area: [[Team Giovanni/Patrizia|Team Giovanni/Patrizia]]
 This discussion area is under the umbrella of Team discussion area, which I have added as a tab in the main menu bar. You will also find you, Jill's and my team discussion areas there, for when you  want to start using yours.  William Kellett posted a short note to your area before he went off on holiday
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 I'm delighted you will be able to join Jill and me on Monday at Westminster School. Jill's online training material is shaping up very well
-See: Online Training Activities
+See: [[Online Training Activities|Online Training Activities]]
 Best wishes

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 [WWW]TEI Lite
-I need further convincing of Patrizia's assertion that "Callice in France" is one place not two places which are linked in the mind of the deponent (and scribe). We need to be careful of having the database drive the léinking of "Callice" to "France" since the fact that the deponent speaks of "Callice" as being in France is in itself interesting (as opposed to Callice in Europe, or Callice in Northern France.  This is particularly important if we want (as I do) to use the geographical coding to explore how people spoke and conceptualised about geographical (and social space). I have seen Barbados described as "in America" and "in the Caribee". I have seen "Lima" described as "in America" etc.
+I need further convincing of Patrizia's assertion that "Callice in France" is one place not two places which are linked in the mind of the deponent (and scribe). We need to be careful of having the database drive the linking of "Callice" to "France" since the fact that the deponent speaks of "Callice" as being in France is in itself interesting (as opposed to Callice in Europe, or Callice in Northern France.  This is particularly important if we want (as I do) to use the geographical coding to explore how people spoke and conceptualised about geographical (and social space). I have seen Barbados described as "in America" and "in the Caribee". I have seen "Lima" described as "in America" etc.
 But I am posting everything of importance to a new Team Giovanni/Patrizia discussion area: Team Giovanni/Patrizia

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 I also agree on excluding "said" and "the" and "a" and "an" from names, so "Lord Protector", not "The Lord Protector" and "Councell" not "The Councell" and "King", not "The King".
-The one problem with leaving out "said" (and I agree with leaving it out", is that when (as I assume we will) someone goes through all references to "ship" and tries to link "ship" to named ships elsewhere on the same manuscript page, or to nearbye pages, for inclusion in the relational database that Patrizia rightly wants to build, we have lost the ability to go first to a  "said ship" category. I am presuming that if the léanguage of "said ship" is in the manuscript, then probably somewhere in the deposition the ship was named, or at least referred to as "the english friggatt" or "the french man of warr". But simply in terms of the way that TEI codes appear to be sorted and parsed, it appears that the first character of the text which has been coded is key.
+The one problem with leaving out "said" (and I agree with leaving it out", is that when (as I assume we will) someone goes through all references to "ship" and tries to link "ship" to named ships elsewhere on the same manuscript page, or to nearbye pages, for inclusion in the relational database that Patrizia rightly wants to build, we have lost the ability to go first to a  "said ship" category. I am presuming that if the language of "said ship" is in the manuscript, then probably somewhere in the deposition the ship was named, or at least referred to as "the english friggatt" or "the french man of warr". But simply in terms of the way that TEI codes appear to be sorted and parsed, it appears that the first character of the text which has been coded is key.
 I have begun reading up on TEI, but I am a complete novice. When you have time, you might like to look at:

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 - I like the way you use notes for signatures and format elements.
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 ===Colin to Giovanni, Patrizia, Charlene; 31/08/12; 10:56===

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 This comes from the Old Bailey Proceedings, and lists the essential people and facts involved.
 As Giovanni says, if we marry a 'bottom up' transcription, plus a 'top down' finetuning, we will maybe able to keep the best of two worlds: in phase one the transcriptors  make the awful work of understanding what is written (i.e.: they simply transcribe), but in phase two, once they finished the transcription, they summarize the document (like above).
 On this basis, the database fundamentalist (i.e.: Giovanni and myself) build categories and and the relevant database.

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 * It is signed by Feban Merchier (I think I am correct in reading this as an "F"), which is possibly a variant of the modern French name "Fabian", and poses a name equivalence point which we will occasionally face on other non-English deponents, since the name was anglicised in the front matter as "John Mercier"
-* Please not that there is a seventeen folio jump between images HCA 13/71 f.101v P1130405 and HCA 13/71 f.118r P1130406, since I had already photpgraphed f.102r to f.117v earlier. Giovanni, I know this is not ideal.
+* '''Please note that there is a seventeen folio jump between images HCA 13/71 f.101v P1130405 and HCA 13/71 f.118r P1130406, since I had already photpgraphed f.102r to f.117v earlier. Giovanni, I know this is not ideal.'''
 Well, rather a long email, but I hope this helps.

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 *** Witness name, place of abode, and estimated age at top of main text
-Mark Harrison of Wapping in
+''Mark Harrison of Wapping in
 the County of Midds Mariner aged
 seven and twenty yeares or thereabouts
 a witnes sworne and examined deposeth and
-saith as followeth. vizt
+saith as followeth. vizt''
 *** Abbreviation in left hand margin "Ren:dt" (contraction for latin word, XXX = XXX)

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 *** Brief statement as to nature of the legal record (here it is an examination)
-Examined upon an Allon on the behalfe of
+''Examined upon an Allon on the behalfe of
 the sayd Keepers of the Liberty of the Liberty of England by
-Authority of Parliament
+Authority of Parliament''
 *** Witness name, place of abode, and estimated age at top of main text