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have discharged the foresayd Cases of sylver for the accompt and use aforesaid. And otherwise cannot depose. To the Crosse Interrogatories To the first he saith he was master of the said shipp and aboard her when she was seized, and tooke first Charge of her att Hamburgh where he first came aboard her and hath bene Master of her for these six yeares now past To the second he saith he hath knowne the sayd Claymers by some severall yeares and otherwise saving his foregoing depositions cannot depose To the third he saith the sayd sylver was received aboard by this Rendent in the day tyme being then laden by Thomas Manuel de Herrera of Sevill who laded 6 cases, and a part John Salldias of Cadiz who laded 2 Cases both of them being Spaniards To the 4th he saith he cannot depose otherwise than as aforesayd To the 5th and 6th he saith that he caused an entry of .6. of the sayd cases of sylver to be entred in his booke as marked with the armes of the King of Spaine, and farther referring himselfe to the sayd bills of lading, and sayd booke which is in the Registry of this Court he cannot depose. and saving that he entred 2 other of the sayd Chests in the sayd booke with the marke aforesayd and name of the consignatary agreeable to the bill of lading [#] [# LH MARGIN] [?XXX] that he is sure [?XX[ sayd Chests or cases [?XX] by the sayd John [?XX] and the other [?XX] Cashier of the [?sayd] [?Thomas Manuel] de Herrera [?XXX] of his Master Michael V. Lubkin [SIGNATURE, LH MARGIN] To the .7/ negatively for his part To the 8. 9. 10. 11. and 12th negatively. To the 13th he saith he was borne att Hamburgh and there hath his habitation and otherwise negatively. To the 14th hee saith the sayd shipp began her outwards voyage from Hamborough with her lading of peice goods wax, cloth and other things in all 300 tones all taken in att Hamburgh and otherwise cannot depose. To the 15th. negatively. To the 16th. he saith he cannot depose. To the 17th. he saith he cannot depose To the .18. he saith he was not present att nor saw the buying of the sayd sylver. and otherwise cannot depose. To the .19th. he saith the sayd sylver was all laden under Command of the forts of Cadiz and there was twos license or dispatches for the same one from the port of Sevill the other from Cadiz which were left with this Rendent and were aboard the sayd shipp att the tyme of her seizure and and came into the power of the seizers. and further cannot depose. To the 20 and 21th. he sayeth he knoweth well that It is a common and usuall thing to transport sylver and moneyes out of Spaine to other parts, and otherwise not knowinge the lawes of Spaine he saith he cannot depose. [?Xell] Van Lubkan [SIGNATURE, RH SIDE] ************ The 17th day of december .1653. Examined upon the sayd allegation The Claime of John Stephen Spinola} for his sylver in the ''Morning star''} '''3''' '''Michael Van Lubkin''' of Hamburgh Mariner Captaine and Commander of the sayd shipp the ''Morning Starr'' aged 30 yeares or thereabouts a witnes sworne and examined deposeth and saith as followeth videlicet. To the first and second articles of the sayd allegation This deponent saith That the sayd John Stephen Spinola by common repute is a Spaniard and a subiect of the King of Spaine using to trade betwixt Spaine and fflanders for sylver and other goods having his Correspondents in the sayd respective places for the manageing of the sayd trade. and otherwise cannot depose. To the 3. 4. 5. and 6th articles of the sayd allegation he saith that in the month of January 1653. new stile there were laden aboard the sayd shipp the ''Morning Starr'' att Cadiz 2 barrs of sylver wrapped in linnen marked as in the margent for the Accompt of the sayd John Stephen Spinola to be transported to Dunkerke and there to be delivered to his Assignes for his use. which sylver this deponent receyved aboard the sayd
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