To the fifth Interrogatie hee saith hee is not nor was any of the company of the ''Salvador'' interrate, and soe all the rest of this interrogatorie is satisfied. To the 2 negatively, saying hee was not present at the lading of the silver in question. To the 3 hee cannot answer not being present as aforesaid, but hath heard that the said shipp was wholly laden at Cadiz. To the fourth hee saith that hee hath knowne the Matthew Fransen aforesaid for these twenty yeares last past, and knoweth him to be a part owner of the said shipp for the reasons aforesaid, and because hee hath often seen and been privie to the accompt made up and given by the said Christian Cloppenburgh to the said Matthew Fransen as a part owner for the freight, proffite and expenses of the said shipp, this deponent as aforesaid living with the said Fransen and soe cumming to take notice of and to be acquainted with the premisses and otherwise hee referreth himselfe to his foregoeing deposition. To the 5th hee saith hee knoweth not any other of the owners of the said shipp than the said Matthew Fransen, who hee saith is of a middle stature well bearded, pale coloured in the face and of about 40 yeares of age, and this deponent sawe him last at Amsterdam at church about 14 monthes since and when this deponent last spake with him, hee spake dutch to this deponent who spake dutch to him, being as hee beleeveyh the only language that the said Fransen can speke of this deponent albeit hee wrought three yeares with him at the trade of saile making, never heard him speake any other language but dutch, but the effect of their last communication hee saith hee remembreth not. To the 6th hee saith that this examinate can speake English being his mother tongue, lowe dutch, having lived 26 and 27 yeares in Amsterdam ended about 14 monthes since, Spanish having often sailed in Spanish shipps, and first learnt the language about 14 yeares since and can speake a little French. To the 7th hee saith hee can write legibly and reade both written (?and} and printed. To the 8th hee saith he knoweth the purser of the ''Salvador'' by sight and that the said purser was in company of those of the companie of the said shipp when this deponent met and dranke and discoursed with them at Woolwich as hee hath predeposed, which meeetin was casuall referring himselfe to his foregoing deposition, and saith the said purser after some tyme departed their company, and on his going, hailed and bade his fellowes have a care of their tongues and what they said, saying [LH MARGIN] to them, you know in what a case wee have bin in already, or that effect, Abraham Jansen [SIGNATURE] To the 12th hee hath not soe deposed. To the 13th negatively. To the 14th and 15th hee saith hee was not of the company of any of the Shipps of this Commonwealth that seized the said shipp and her lading, and otherwise negatively. To the 16th negatively. To the 17th hee referreth himselfe to his foregoing deposition. To the 18th hee referreth himselfe to his foregoing deposition where he hath satisfied the same. To the 19th hee saith hee dwelt constantly in Amsterdam (saving his absence now and then in seafaring voyage) for 26 yeares or thereabouts, till about 14 monthes since at which time hee returned thence with his wife and went and tooke a chamber in Ostend, and there continued only six or seven weekes and thence came for England and hath ever since dwelt in Saint Catherines lane neere the Tower of London the place of his present residence. To the 20th hee saith that hee never sailed in the said shipp the ''Salvadorr'' nor was ever in her at Cadiz. To the 21th hee saith that upon the said shipp the ''Salvador'' her returne from Spaine
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