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To the Interrogatories. [CENTRE HEADING]

Smith dt.

To the first hee saith hee doth not knowe that hee hath seene the shipp
interrogated.

To the second hee saith the said William Bolyn la Gard is commonly reputed
a native of Saint Malo's in ffrance, but this deponent never ssawe him there nor in any
other part of ffrance. And otherwise hee cannot answer saving as aforesaid.

To the third article hee cannot guesse at the age of the said Bolyn with
any certaintie, and saith hee is of black complexion, and his wife (as tis
commonly said) is a dutchwoman, And otherwise hee referreth himselfe
to his foregoeing deposition, and saving the same cannot answer.

To fourth hee cannot answer saving as aforesaid.

To the fifth and 6th hee cannot answer.

The marke of Peter
+ Baly. [MARKE, RH SIDE]

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The 18th of September 1655. [CENTRE HEADING]

Examined upon the said allegation.

dt.

2.

Peter Johnson of Rotherdam mariner master of the said shipp
the Saint Jacob aged 28 yeares or thereabouts sworne and examined.

To the first and second article of the said allegation hee saith and deposeth
that about tenn yeares since the shipp the Saint Jacob (whereof this deponent is
master) was built at Memblick in the fashion of a Busse, this deponent there
seeing it soe her building, and afterwards when shee was finished. And saith
that about three and thirtie monethes since the producent William Bolin
de la Gard bought the said Busse of and from her owner at Memblick and
then at Amsterdam caused her to be built and fashioned into a shipp as nowe
shee is, at his owne costs and charges, which hee knoweth because hee this deponent
being to goe master of her was appointed by the said Bolin to oversee the
worke, which hee did accordingly, and knoweth that the said shipp was soe
[?XXX] formed rigged and fitted upon the accompt and on the sole cost of the
said Bolin la Gard, who hath ever since bin and at present is sole owner
and proprietor thereof, and constituted this deponent master of her, and to him
as sole owner this deponent hath accompted for her freight, and hath had supplie
from him for her furnishing with provisions, and at his cost and
charges shee hath bin from time to time set out, And otherwise hee cannot
depose, saving that ever since the said buying the said producent hath bin and
is commonly reputed the sole owner and proprietor of the said shipp tackle and
furniture.

To the third article and schedules therein mentioned hee saith and deposeth
that the Charter partie and seabrief arlate annexed to the said allegation and
npwe showne unto him, were aboard the said shipp the Saint [?Jacobs] at the time
of her seizure by the vessell commannded by derrick Sw[?inne], and were
by this deponent showed to the said derrick [?Swine], and by him seene and
perused, and then redelivered by the said derrick of his owne accord to this
deponent, and saith the said Seabrief and Charter partie were and are true
and otherwise hee cannot depose.

To the fourth hee saith that hee hath well knowne the saud William Bolin
la Gard about eleaven yeares last past, all which space hee the said William hath lived
in Amsterdam and hath for theise seaven or eight yeares last bin a Burger of
that

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Ships

Busse

"about tenn yeares since the shipp the Saint Jacob (whereof this deponent is
master) was built at Memblick in the fashion of a Busse, this deponent there
seeing it soe her building, and afterwards when shee was finished. And saith
that about three and thirtie monethes since the producent William Bolin
de la Gard bought the said Busse of and from her owner at Memblick and
then at Amsterdam caused her to be built and fashioned into a shipp as nowe
shee is, at his owne costs and charges..." (HCA 13/70 f.608r)

See also the a case in HCA 13/71 in the case of "Askettle and others against the Minories Busse and haydon". The ship the Minories Busse was allegedly chartered by the Corporation of London to go on a fishing design to catch herrings near Yarmouth to support the poor of London"

Deposition of John Keech of the parish of Saint Mary Matsellon at Whitechapell mariner aged fifty fower yeares
Deposition of Joseph Webb of the parish of St Buttolph Algate London Merchantaylor aged 32 yeares

"...about the fower of five and twentieth
of September 1653 on Captaine Richard fferne having
cause the arlate vessel of shipp named the Minories Busse
to be rigged and procured some men to goe in her upon a fishing
desygne for fishing for herrings neare Yarmouth and those parts did agree
this deponent to goe the sayd voyage as Master and Pylott of her hee
the sayd ffearne allowing to this deponent that
share of such fish as should bee taken by sayd vessell that
voyage but saith that hee this deponent was never constituting
appointed Master of the sayd vessell the Minories Busse by the
Corporation of the poore of London nor did they at any tyme pay
him any wages for any service done in the sayd shipp nor give him
any power or Commission to repayre the sayd Busse of take upon
materals or hyre any men for the repayre therof..."^[1]

The ship the Minoris Busse appears in another HCA volume of depositions (HCA 13/72), together with a further fishing vessell allegedly owned by the Corporation of London, the Poores Relief

"the time arlate the corporation
or the poor of London were owners of the Minories Busse arlate
and of alsoe part owners of another vessell at the same time called the __Poores
Relief__, which vessell called the Poores Relief was imployed by
them and company upon a fishing designe, but the certaine
times of such her imployment hee knoweth not, And saith the
arlate Richard ffearnes as this deponent hee heard was a part owner in particular of the
Poores Relief and not as one of the said corporation, And otherwise
hee cannot depose for that hee this deponent albeit hee belongs
to the said corporation, yet hee tooke noe particular notice or account of their
shipping, but was and is only imployed as a steward for the
imploying of the poore people in their worke, and doth not know
that the said ffearnes had any such office as or imployment as
Husband of the said corporation"^[2]

See: Wikipedia entry: Herring buss

- Thanks to Professor David Andress for this reference

- The Dutch language Wikipedia entry for Buis

Schiffahrtsmuseum Nordfriesland, Modell einer historischen Heringsbuise, Dr. Karl-Heinz Hochaus, 2011, Wikipedia

Definition

"A herring buss (Dutch: Haringbuis) was a type of seagoing fishing vessel, used by Dutch and Flemish herring fishermen in the 15th through early 19th centuries.

The buss ship type has a long history. It was already known around the time of the Crusades in the Mediterranean as a cargo vessel (called buzza, bucia or bucius), and we see it around 1000 AD as a more robust development of the Viking longship in Scandinavia, known as a bǘza. The Dutch Buis was probably developed from this Scandinavian ship type.

The Buis was first adapted for use as a fishing vessel in the Netherlands, after the invention of gibbing made it possible to preserve herring at sea. This made longer voyages feasible, and hence enabled Dutch fishermen to follow the herring shoals far from the coasts. The first herring buss was probably built in Hoorn around 1415. The last one was built in Vlaardingen in 1841.

Construction

The ship was about 20 meters in length and displaced between 60 and 100 tons. The ratio of length to beam was between 2.5:1 and 4.5:1, which made for a relatively nimble ship, though still sufficiently stable to be seaworthy. It was a round-bilged keel ship with a round bow and stern, the latter relatively high, and with a gallery. The broad deck provided space to process the catch on board.

The ship had two or three masts. The mainmast and foremast (if present) could be lowered during fishing, leaving only the mizzen mast upright. It was square rigged on the main mast, with a gaff rig on the mizzen. It had a long bow sprit with jibboom and up to three headsails. The main course and topsail could be reefed."

The Dutch herring fleet, c1700, Peter Vogelaer, 1641-c1720, Rijksmuseum Amsterdam, Wikipedia

1. ↑ Case: Askettle and others against the Minories Busse and her tackle and furniture and against Haydon; Deposition: John Keech of the parish of Saint Mary Matsellon at Whitechapell mariner aged fifty fower yeares, HCA 13/71 f.295v
2. ↑ Case: Asketlle and others against the Minories and haydon; Deposition: Richard Roch of the parish of Saint Trinitie in the Minories London citizen and Merchant tailor of London, aged 60 yeeres , HCA 13/71 f.295v