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| − | P1090806
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| − | Unfoliated (artificial f. 1r.)
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| − | The Lord Protector of the commonwealth
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| − | of England Scotland and Ireland
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| − | and the dominions thereto belonging
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| − | against the shipp ''S:t ffrancis''
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| − | Joachim Starbus XXX.
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| − | Rowe d:t
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| − | The 7:th of Aprill 1654
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| − | JOACHIM STARBUS of Hambourgh
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| − | Mariner, master of the said shipp
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| − | aged 49 yeares of thereabouts XXXX
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| − | in XXXXX, saith and deposeth as
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| − | followeth, viz:t
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| − | To the first abd second Interroies hee saith and deposeth that the said
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| − | shipp the ''S:t ffrancis'' belongeth to the port of Hamburgh, and that
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| − | her owners were and are only two oersons who hee saith were and are are hamburghersm Merchantsm Inhabitants
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| − | & Burghers of that citie and subiects of the free state of Hamburgh
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| − | and were and are all natives of Hamburgh and have dwelt there all
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| − | theire time, and for their names hee saith they were and are Detleff
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| − | fflaXhoff and ?Henre Samall, and that noe other persons or person
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| − | XX farr as hee knoweth or beleeveth had or hath any peice or share
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| − | therein, but whether they the said two owners have parte distinct or
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| − | are ioynt owners without distinction of parte hee knoweth not, and saith
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| − | the said owners bought the said shipp (as this deponent hath bin
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| − | informed) at Dunquirke about two yeares since, but this deponent
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| − | was not present nor knoweth ought of the payment therefore;
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| − | but knoweth their said owner shipp; being constituted nor by them
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| − | and XX them fitt and furnish the said shipp out in theire ?costs and
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| − | chardges. And otherwise cannot depose, saving the said vessell
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| − | by the XXXX soe XXX to him to be English built, and as hee hath
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| − | heard was built at Yarmouth
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| − | To the thirde hee saith that for theise seaven monethes last,
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| − | namely from a month before Michaelmas last or there hee
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| − | this deponent hath bin master of the said shipp the S:t ffrancis and
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| − | come first aboard her then at Hamburgh as master thereof, and that
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| − | a dunquirke as this deponent was told XX bin master of her next before this deponent, who having bin plundred
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| − | in the Elbe; had lost the said shipp at Hamburgh 3 or 4 monethes befoer
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| − | this deponent became master of her. And otherwise saving this
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| − | foregoing depon hee cannot depose.
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| − | To the fourth and saith the said shipp did never before as hee
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| − | knoweth and he XXX beleveth ?belong to Amsterdam or other port
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| − | without the Dominion of the States of the United Netherlands, and
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| − | XXX that XXX beXXX are outwards voiage from Hamborough
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| − | about a fortnights before Michaelmas last, at w:ch time XXX
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| − | came there in a fleete of other shipps under English XXXX XXXX
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| − | for this port abd laden with XXXX and came and arrived here and delivered her said
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| − | outward lading to and to the XXX of M:r Alderman ffrederick and companie, upon
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| − | whose accompt there was freighted at Hamburgh by M:r John `Barcke
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| − | an Englishman their factor theire. And after such deliverie, XXX
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| − | was freighted and againe laden there with lead and sugar by M:r Richard
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| − | fford merchant of this citie and companie for HaXXXX ?Grace, XXXX
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| − | this deponent XXX with the said shipp and delivered the said lead and
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| − | sugar
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| − | P1090807
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| − | Unfoliated (artificial f. 1v.)
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| − | '''Transcription'''
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| − | sugar for their accompt according to consignement to his factor there,
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| − | and saith that the said affraightment of the said M:r fford this deponent
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| − | having delivered the said XXXX and sugars at XXXX da XXXXX
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| − | bring a cargo of goods to this port for accompt of him or of him
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| − | and companie, w:ch this deponent accordingly did, and at S:t Maloe
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| − | received the said shipps lading in bales of linnen for the said accompt
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| − | referring himselfe to this Roll or manifest of this his lading
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| − | XXized by Captaine XXXX and to the bills of lading XXXX by him
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| − | for the particlaritie of cargo of goods; and that the said cargo was aboard
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| − | XX the time of the said seizure by Captaine XXXX, and noe silver,
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| − | Jewells, armes or ammunition were in the said shipp; and
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| − | saith that the said cargo of linnens were laden by mons:r Le Mot
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| − | Arman, and consigned to this port to the said M:r fford, XXX
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| − | otherwise hee cannot depose, showuîng as aforesaid and what followeth
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| − | To the XXth hee saith hee signed only true (OR, three) bills of lading for
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| − | the said cardo of linnens, w:ch were all of one tenor, and were
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| − | and are all true and reall, and that the goods were really consigned
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| − | to the port menconned in the said bills, namely this port of London,
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| − | and were and are truely and really (ashee verily beleeveth) belonging to the person
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| − | or persons to whom they are consigned or for XXXX accompt they are
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| − | in the said bills mentioned to be laden, namely to the said M:r fford or to
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| − | him and companie, and the said Monsi:r Le Mot Arman alsoe told
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| − | and acquainted this deponent that the said goods were for the said acco:t
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| − | And otherwise hee cannot depose, XXXX as aforesaid
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| − | Tp the XXXX hee saith his company as XXXX of the said seizure
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| − | XXXX of 6 man and a boy, two of the XXX and the said boy
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| − | all which are Hamborgers, two Fdanes, one ffrenchman, the steersman
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| − | a MiddleXXXX, but XXX this deponent here at London, and this
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| − | is one of the said Hamburgers, having lived there and bin a ?burger there
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| − | 26 yeares and bin a married man and XXXXX there XXXX,
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| − | XXXX borne in Pomerland, and otherwise negatively.
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| − | To the 8:th XXX XXX hee was borne under the dominion of the
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| − | Duke of Pomerland, but nevertheless XXX XXXX is under the XXXX
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| − | and XXXX the rest XXXX hath notified the the XXXX before
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| − | To the 9:th negatively.
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| − | To the 10:th hee saith hee XXX signed a bill of lading for the said
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| − | good for Amsterdam, w:ch was donne nearly for a colour and to
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| − | XXXX the said goods from seizure by the Hollanders in XXX hee
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| − | could be XXX by them, and for the XXX XXX sea XX hee
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| − | XXXX the bills predeposed XXXX for
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| − | London, alonge in the said shippe, XXX XXXX and
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| − | colourable bill for Amsterdam, w:ch came to the hands of the
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| − | sd XXXX, and lest the said true bill XXXX Maloes with
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| − | their said factor
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| − | To the 11:th negatively
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| − | To the 12:th hee saith hee was to receive the the freight for the said
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| − | goods of the said M:r fford XXX XXX delivered, XXXX the said
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| − | XXXX
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| − | P1090808
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| − | Unfoliated
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| − | XXXX
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| − | On the behalfe of John Cole of London
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| − | Merchant touching the double
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| − | shallop the ''ffrancis'' Late of deep
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| − | but nowe of London
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| − | The 10:th of Aprill 1654
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| − | JOHN COLE of London Merchant
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| − | aged thirtie two yeares of thereabouts
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| − | sworne before the right wor:ll
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| − | William Clarke and John Godolphin
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| − | doctors of lawes Judges of the cort of the
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| − | Admiraltie of England, saith and deposeth
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| − | That the double shallup or frigat named the ffrancis late of
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| − | Deepe and nowe of this port of London of the burthen of thirteene
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| − | tonnes or thereabouts where of David Barre was and is master
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| − | was really and bona fide bought by John Samborne merchant
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| − | (having procucacon from this deponent to that purpose) of the
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| − | master David Barre at Caen in Normandie on or about the
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| − | thirtieth day of March last past (newe stile) for the price and
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| − | summe of twelve hundred and twenty livred Tournois upon and for
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| − | the sole and proper accompt of hee this deponent
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| − | really and truely paid for the same with his effects
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| − | remayning in the said Sambornes hands
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| − | unto the said John Samborne upon accompt: and with the
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| − | truth and ?reallitie of the said buying of the said shipp may and doth
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| − | appeare in an Instrument or act Notarial thereupon made and ?passed
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| − | at XXXX the said tjirtieth of may 1654. before XXXX Le ?Suour
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| − | and John Crestien Tabellious Royall there residing, w:ch
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| − | Instrument hee noe produceth and ?sheweth and with that the
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| − | contentes thereof were and are true w:ch hee knoweth for the XXXX XXX. And further that hee this deponent
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| − | was and is an Englishman and nowe XXX XXX Resident in this citie of London
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| − | and that hee this vessell is were an french vessell and belonging
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| − | to this his XXXX, and that hee thsi deponent the XXXX owner
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| − | thereof and of her tackle and furniture
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| − | JOHN COLE [His signature]
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| − | P1090809
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| − | Against the ''S:t ffrancis'' aforesaid
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| − | Rowe d:t
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| − | The 10:th of Aprill 1653 (sic)
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| − | 2. ABRAHAM PETERSON of fflushing Mariner
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| − | Stiersman of the said shipp
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| − | the ''S:t ffrancis'', aged 26 yeares or thereabouts
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| − | sworne as aforesaid saith as followeth.
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| − | To the first and second Interries hee cannot depose, saying hee doth
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| − | not knowe the owners of the said shipp, nor where they live, nor
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| − | where shee was built.
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| − | To the third hee saith that the name of the master of the said shipp
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| − | is Johnis Starbus, and otherwise hee cannot depose;
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| − | hee this deponent never knew the said shipp before hee comming to
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| − | London, where this deponent was shipt in her about November
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| − | last being hired by the said skipper for ffrance and XXback for London
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| − | To the fowrth and fifth hee saith the said shipp came last before her seizure
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| − | from S:t Maloe bound for this port, w:ch hee jnoweth being then
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| − | Stiersman of her. and saith that from hence XXX went frewighted
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| − | by M:r fford, a marchant of this citie for XXXer le ?Gurare, laden
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| − | with lead and sugar, and XXX XXXX, whch XXXX
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| − | delivered upon and for accompt of the said M:r fford (or of him and
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| − | XXXXXX) to one M:r Britton his factor there, and that the said
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| − | shipp XXXX upon the said affreightmanbt and XXXX from Dover da ?B:areane to S:t Maloe, in ballast and there received a cargo of linnen and XXXXcloth and
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| − | old ?chintz and XXXXX and other linnen commodities to be brought
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| − | to this port and ?there to be delivered for accompt aforesaid
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| − | of the said M:r fford or of him and companie, XXXX hee was informed both
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| − | by the said skipper and alsoe by the said M:r fford before the said
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| − | seizure preceeading from hence that the said shipp was to fetch the
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| − | said ?serge from S:t Maloe for the ssaid accompt. And saith the
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| − | said cargo of linnen wares was laden at S:t Maloe by one mons:r
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| − | le ?niot ?Harman, and XXX XXXX to the said M:r fford or to him and
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| − | company, serving him use to the bills of lading, and wich hee
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| − | heard thX said M:r le mot say that for said XXX were for the said accompt
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| − | XXX hee said at the time of the XXXX the bills of lading for
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| − | the XXXX by the skipper, whereon this deponent was prsent, and
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| − | further he cannot depose.
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| − | To the 6_th are saith the said master XXXXX thX bills of lading for
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| − | the goods aboard, all of and XXX, and all for this part for XXXX to be delivered
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| − | P1090810
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| − | Artificail f. 3r.
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| − | XXXX
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| − | ***
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| − | The Lord Protector x:r against the
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| − | XXX XXXX for XXX
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| − | RoXXXX:t
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| − | The 11:th of Aprill 1654.
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| − | J. JOLIAS HARRISON of ?Dunwick in Suffolk
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| − | apprentice to Samuel ?Driver of the
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| − | XXXX, aged 12 yeares or thereabouts
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| − | sworne and examined.
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| − | To the first and second Interrogatories hee saith that the fishing boate
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| − | or barque aclate the ''SuXXX'' coming about five dayes since
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| − | fromwalserXXXX for this port of London laden with butter and
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| − | XXXX to be there delivered was neere the Spistes met with a
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| − | and taken by a duty shallop a man of warre subiect to the
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| − | States
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| − | P1090811
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| − | XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
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| − | ****
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| − | On the behalfe of Hugh Riley and)
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| − | comp: touching the ''ffortune''
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| − | XXXXX
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| − | The 11:th of May 1654
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| − | ALEXANDER COVELL of Portsmouth Barber, aged 25 yeares
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| − | or thereabouts sworne in Court the say above XXX before the
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| − | right hono_ll William Clarke and John Godolphon doctors of
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| − | lawes Judges of the high court of the Admiralty saith and
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| − | deposeth by reason of his oath
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| − | Tha the shipp the ''ffortune'' of CaXXXX was mett with and seized at
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| − | sea to the Northward about XXXXX last by
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| − | Captaine John Dudley commander of the ''Mary'', w:ch hee knoweth
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| − | being one of his companie and present and XXXX the XXXX seizureof ''ffortune'', w:ch was laden with malt and barley, and XXXX by the
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| − | XXXX XXXXX and company brought XX into the river of XXXX
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| − | The marke of Alexander Coverll [His mark]
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| − | ****
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| − | The Clayme of Mannuel Leis Carnero
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| − | for his goods in the shipps the ?''Tagus''
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| − | Kings'' and ''John de Grace''
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| − | XXXX
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| − | The eighteeneth day of May. 1654
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| − | Examined upon y:e sayd allcn.
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| − | JUAN THOMAS MILATI of Cadiz in Spayn
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| − | merchant aged 23 yeares or thereabouts a
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| − | witness sworne and examined deposeth and saith
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| − | as followeth viz:t
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| − | To y:e first and secon arles of y:e said allon and two schedules XXX
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| − | menconed and here to annexed This deponent saith That coming
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| − | in August 1653 last past as a passenger from Cadiz in Spaine to S:T
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| − | Malloe ffrance in a certaine shipp named y:e ''S:t Vincent''XXX
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| − | well
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| − | P1090812
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| − | Unfoliated
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| − | X r.
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| − | well remembreth that some dayes before the says shipps depture
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| − | from Cadiz he saw one Raphael d Luna who was the servant of the
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| − | acclate Manual Lowij Carnero carry on board y:e sayd shipp a good pcell
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| − | of Indian hides, which hee sayd were his masters, and he consigned
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| − | the same to William Claviel att S:t Mallo who does busines as a facto:r for y:e sayd Carnero: And these hides of this deponents knowledge
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| − | who went a passenger in y:e ''S:t Vincent'' came safe to y:e sayd
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| − | Claviels hands, and XX as this deponent is well assured did here
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| − | XXX y:e same and convert the proceead thereof in to Linnen Cloath
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| − | for accompt of y:e sayd Carnero: for hee saith that in the moneth
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| − | of September 1653 last past hee saw the sayd Claviel goe
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| − | on board y:e aclate shipp y:e ''Three Kings'' then lyeing att S:t mallo
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| − | where y:e said ''John de Grace'' did then likewise remaine and saw him
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| − | ?carry with him three bales of linnen marked as farr as
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| − | this deponent can now remember with an R. or some such like
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| − | marke, which three bales the sayd Claviel told this deponent then
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| − | standing upon y:e Strand and having goods to lade on board y:e
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| − | same shipp for cadiz that he did lade for accompt of the
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| − | say:d Manuel Levij do Carndro by way of returne of his hides and did
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| − | consogne them to y:e saiyd XXXX de Luna whom this deponent well knew to be the servant of y:e sayd Carnero, for which reasons
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| − | this deponent is as he saith well assured that y:e sayd Carnero att
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| − | the tyme of lading y:e sayd bales was and att p:rsent is the true
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| − | and lawfull owner of the same
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| − | XXXX
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| − | P1090813
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| − | Unfoliated
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| − | X v.
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| − | XXXX
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| − | P1090814
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| − | Unfoliated
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| − | X r.
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| − | The 29 day of May 1654
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| − | The clayme of Daniell Skinner the Elder)
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| − | Daniell Skinner the Younger & Thomas Skinner)
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| − | English Marchants of Dover for the shipp)
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| − | the ''Younge Gyant'' of Dover (Robert Hopkins M:r)
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| − | & her tackle & furniture & for her ladeing of)
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| − | the sayde shipp being XXXX Taken by)
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| − | some of the shipps of the State & Commonwealth )
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| − | of England XXXX ffrancklin)
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| − | S:p
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| − | Examined on an allegaccon on the behalfe
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| − | of the sayd Daniell Skinner the Elder
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| − | Daniell Skinner the younger and Thomas
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| − | Skinner
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| − | 1. JOHN ASHURST the younger of the pish of
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| − | S:t Andrew Undershafte London Marchant
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| − | aged 25 yeares of thereabouts a witness
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| − | sworne & examined saith and deposeth
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| − | as followeth viz:t
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| − | To the seaventh article of the sayd allegaccon hee saith and deposeth
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| − | That hee this deponent hath receaved letters of advice from one
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| − | William Wildegoose a factor or Agent for the producente in ffrance bearing date the sixth day of this instant month
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| − | of May (new style) wherein he did advise this deponent that hee had drawne
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| − | upon Albertis Skinner of London Merchant for Accompte of the producente
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| − | Daniell Skinner the Elder Daniell Skinner the younger & Thomas Skinner
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| − | the summe of six thousand five hundred Livres Turnois and was XXX
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| − | the summe of sixe thousand five hundred Livre Turnois more for the
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| − | accompt of the sayd producents upon them selves or such persons
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| − | as they should appointe,
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| − | and hee this deponent verily beleeveth that the says 13 thousand
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| − | Livre was for and towards satisfaction and payment for the 221
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| − | tonnes of wynneaclate and that the sayd producents are to pay and
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| − | satisfie the same And further hee cannot depose
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| − | Upon the rest of the articles hee is not examined by discreccon of
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| − | the producents
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| − | To the Interries
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| − | To the first Interrie hee saith hee this deponent was borne in the
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| − | pish of S:t Margaret Newfish streete London & hath lived ?these 4 yeares
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| − | last or thereabouts in the pish of A:t Andrew Undershafte aforesayd and before
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| − | for the most parte in ffrance during the tyme Interrogate & to the rest of
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| − | the Unterr hee answereth negatively
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| − | To the second Interrogatorie hee saith hee hath not deposed ought touching
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| − | the contents of the matters in this Interr conteyned nor knoweth ought of the
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| − | Contents thereof
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| − | To the 3:d hee cannot depose
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| − | To the 4:th hee cannot depose
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| − | To the 5:th hee answereth that hee knoweth not the Intera ffrncio Claoson nor
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| − | what countryman hee is by birth nor where hee hath lived during the tyme
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| − | Interr.
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| − | To the 6:th Interr hee saith that savong his foregoeing deposiccons to the
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| − | allegaccon whereto hee referreth hee cannot depose.
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| − | To the 7:th Interr hee cannot answere not being in ffrance at the tyme
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| − | To the 8:th 9:th & 10:th Interrieshee knoweth nothing of the contents of them
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| − | To the 11:th Interr hee saith it conceneth him not to answere thereto hee having
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| − | not deposed to the contents of the article Interrogate
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| − | To the 12:th hee saith that hee knoweth not nor beleeveth that the shipp and
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| − | Wynes Interr or any part thereof doe belonge to any ducthman or
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| − | dutchmen subiects of the States Interr or ffrench man or ffrench men
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| − | suniects of the ffrench King , but on the contrary hath heard & verily beleeveth
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| − | that the sayd shipp & wynes doe belonge to the Interr Daniell Skinner the
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| − | elder Daniell Skinner the Younger & Thomas Skinner And further hee
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| − | cannot depose
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| − | To the thirteenth Interr hee saith hee doth not knowe nor hath at any time seene the shipp Interr
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| − | nor knoweth ought of the contents of this Interrie
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| − | To the 14:th Interr hee saith hee hath not deposed to the contents of the article
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| − | mentiondd in this Interrie nor knoweth ought or the contents of this Interr
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| − | To the 15 hee knoweth nothing of the contents of this Interr
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| − | To the 16:th hee saith hee knoweth nothing of the contents of this Interrie
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| − | JOHN ASHURST JUNIOR [His signature]
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