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|Transcription=dispatches and other things, hee hired and imployed severall persons (that use
 
|Transcription=dispatches and other things, hee hired and imployed severall persons (that use
 
to write upon hire) to write for him, some at one time, and some at another
 
to write upon hire) to write for him, some at one time, and some at another
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as one mr Christopher Jobie and others, and some and ˹or other˺ of them he saith wrote
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as one mr Christopher Jobe and others, and some one or other of them he saith wrote
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the said bills, but who in particular it was hee is not certaine whose it was
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the said letters, but who in particular it was hee is not certaine
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but supposes it might be the said skob Jobie: and for the first schedule
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but supposes it might be the said Jobe: and for the first schedule
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or bill of lading hee saith the same was and is ˹as he beleeveth˺ and of the three so by
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or bill of lading hee saith the same was and is as he beleeveth
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the said John Danielson said as aforesaid, and was and is true and reall and
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true and reall
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reall and the contents thereof true, but the said foure bills were and are all
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But as to the said foure letters hee saith that the
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in their contents fained and fictional, and that the cause of such their
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fiction and pretendednes was double, first ˹in case˺ least the said bills being found
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out and the contents thereof knowne discovered to any at the Spaniard XX
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because if he had written But as to the said foure bills hee saith that the
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first three thereof namely the second, third and fourth schedules were and
 
first three thereof namely the second, third and fourth schedules were and
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are in the contents thereof intirely fictitious and supposed and not reall
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are in the contents thereof entirely fictitious and supposed and not reall
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if and were written only to colour secure the goods from seizure by the
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and were written only to colour secure the goods from seizure by the
 
Spaniards at the Canaries, and from the dunkerkers in case they should meete
 
Spaniards at the Canaries, and from the dunkerkers in case they should meete
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with the said shipp in her retourne X And for the said fourth bill,which is written
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with the said shipp in her retourne And for the said fourth letter, which is written
 
and directed to mr ffernandez, hee saith that the same was and is in part
 
and directed to mr ffernandez, hee saith that the same was and is in part
 
true and reall and in part fictitious and colourable, namely for what
 
true and reall and in part fictitious and colourable, namely for what
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mention ˹mentions˺ mr ffernandez and his account hee said the same was and is true
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mentions mr ffernandez and his account hee said the same was and is true
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and reall, but for what soe much thereof as mentions any of the said goods
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and reall, but for soe much thereof as mentions any of the said goods
 
to be belonging to this deponent, or Antonio de Ponte, hee saith the same is
 
to be belonging to this deponent, or Antonio de Ponte, hee saith the same is
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fictitious, and written for the reason aforesaid to preserve the said goods from
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fictitious, and written for the reason aforesaid to preserve the said goods soe
 
going under the names of this deponent and mr de Ponte from seizure
 
going under the names of this deponent and mr de Ponte from seizure
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by the Spaniards or Dunquirkers, and whereas in truth the whole
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by the Spaniards or dunquirkers, and whereas in truth the whole
 
parcell really belongs to mr ffernandez, Concerning whom hee saith that
 
parcell really belongs to mr ffernandez, Concerning whom hee saith that
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his Spanish name was during the ˹would possibly have˺ secured those put in his name from seizure
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his Spanish name would possibly have secured those put in his name from seizure
 
at Teneriff, in case the bill found there have bin found, but this deponent
 
at Teneriff, in case the bill found there have bin found, but this deponent
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not knowing and under which nation either of Englishman or spaniard the
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not knowing and under which nation either of Englishman or Spaniard the
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Dunkirkers would aspect him, but rather supposing that they (living
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dunkirkers would aspect him, but rather supposing that they (living
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neere and better knowing him) would looke upon or at him as an English
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neerer and better knowing him) would looke upon or at him as an English
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man, this deponent consigned the familar part in the said bill had ˹for his owne account˺ because
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man, this deponent consigned the smaller part in the said letter to him for his owne account because
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that in case of the shipps carrying into Dunkirke, the greater part might
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that in case of the shipps carrying into dunkirke, the greater part might
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be retourned and the dunkirkers might take the contents of the said bills to be
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be recovered and the dunkirkers might take the contents of the said letter to be
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the more reall ˹as to the other two parts of goods˺ finding some consignment therein for account of mr ffernandez
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the more reall as to the other two parts of goods finding some consignment therein for account of mr ffernandez
 
living in England, whom in likelihood they would make to be an Englishman
 
living in England, whom in likelihood they would make to be an Englishman
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of subiect of this nation, and to this effect he saith it was agreed between
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or subiect of this nation, and to this effect he saith it was agreed between
 
mr ffernandez and this deponent before this deponents departure hence, and
 
mr ffernandez and this deponent before this deponents departure hence, and
 
mr ffernandez ordered him to write in that manner. and saith the said
 
mr ffernandez ordered him to write in that manner. and saith the said
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foure bills with the said bill of lading upon the boats last coming ashore
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foure letters with the said bill of lading upon the boats last coming ashore
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before ˹the shipp˺ the departure from Teneriff, this deponent gave to one of the
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before the ships departure from Teneriff, this deponent gave to one of the
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shipps company (coming to his lodging to see what hee would have aboard) and
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ships company (coming to his lodging to see what hee would have aboard) and
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ordered him to deliver the same to the said John Danielson to be carried in
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ordered him to deliver the same to the said John danielson to be carried in
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the shipp. But the reall bill being there ˹that˺ annexed to the foresaid allegation
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the shipp. But the reall letter being that annexed to the foresaid allegation
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and dated the 4th June 1656 (new stile) and said hee sent there by his
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and dated the 4th June 1656 (new stile) and said hee sent thereby his
 
servant John Bailehach and ordered him to keepe it very secret and to
 
servant John Bailehach and ordered him to keepe it very secret and to
 
to deliver it to mr ffernandez. And otherwise saving his foregoing deposition hee
 
to deliver it to mr ffernandez. And otherwise saving his foregoing deposition hee
 
cannot depose, saving the said bill of lading hee received of mr Painter
 
cannot depose, saving the said bill of lading hee received of mr Painter
 
by whome hee was desired to send it, and by whome alsoe he was desired to
 
by whome hee was desired to send it, and by whome alsoe he was desired to
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write the first bill
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write the first letter.
  
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To the second hee saith hee is a known Catholik, and maketh a conscience
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To the second hee saith hee is a Roman Catholik, and maketh a conscience
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of part with which hee hath taken in that cause, and beleeveth himselfe bound
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of the oath with which hee hath taken in this cause, and beleeveth himselfe bound
 
thereby to speake the truth, and that it should be a mortall sinne in him
 
thereby to speake the truth, and that it should be a mortall sinne in him
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|Suggested links=[https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AoNoOr05QRMtdHAyNmxuVnNmYkJ3Q0ZiNEQ0R0V2S3c#gid=0 HCA 13/71 Page Log & Planner]
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Volume HCA 13/71
Folio 547
Side Recto
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Uploaded image; transcribed on 02/02/2013
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IMAGE: P1140263.JPG
First transcriber
Karen Gunnell
First transcribed
2013/02/02
Editorial history
Edited on 06/08/2014 by Colin Greenstreet

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dispatches and other things, hee hired and imployed severall persons (that use
to write upon hire) to write for him, some at one time, and some at another
as one mr Christopher Jobe and others, and some one or other of them he saith wrote
the said letters, but who in particular it was hee is not certaine
but supposes it might be the said Jobe: and for the first schedule
or bill of lading hee saith the same was and is as he beleeveth
true and reall
But as to the said foure letters hee saith that the
first three thereof namely the second, third and fourth schedules were and
are in the contents thereof entirely fictitious and supposed and not reall
and were written only to colour secure the goods from seizure by the
Spaniards at the Canaries, and from the dunkerkers in case they should meete
with the said shipp in her retourne And for the said fourth letter, which is written
and directed to mr ffernandez, hee saith that the same was and is in part
true and reall and in part fictitious and colourable, namely for what
mentions mr ffernandez and his account hee said the same was and is true
and reall, but for soe much thereof as mentions any of the said goods
to be belonging to this deponent, or Antonio de Ponte, hee saith the same is
fictitious, and written for the reason aforesaid to preserve the said goods soe
going under the names of this deponent and mr de Ponte from seizure
by the Spaniards or dunquirkers, and whereas in truth the whole
parcell really belongs to mr ffernandez, Concerning whom hee saith that
his Spanish name would possibly have secured those put in his name from seizure
at Teneriff, in case the bill found there have bin found, but this deponent
not knowing and under which nation either of Englishman or Spaniard the
dunkirkers would aspect him, but rather supposing that they (living
neerer and better knowing him) would looke upon or at him as an English
man, this deponent consigned the smaller part in the said letter to him for his owne account because
that in case of the shipps carrying into dunkirke, the greater part might
be recovered and the dunkirkers might take the contents of the said letter to be
the more reall as to the other two parts of goods finding some consignment therein for account of mr ffernandez
living in England, whom in likelihood they would make to be an Englishman
or subiect of this nation, and to this effect he saith it was agreed between
mr ffernandez and this deponent before this deponents departure hence, and
mr ffernandez ordered him to write in that manner. and saith the said
foure letters with the said bill of lading upon the boats last coming ashore
before the ships departure from Teneriff, this deponent gave to one of the
ships company (coming to his lodging to see what hee would have aboard) and
ordered him to deliver the same to the said John danielson to be carried in
the shipp. But the reall letter being that annexed to the foresaid allegation
and dated the 4th June 1656 (new stile) and said hee sent thereby his
servant John Bailehach and ordered him to keepe it very secret and to
to deliver it to mr ffernandez. And otherwise saving his foregoing deposition hee
cannot depose, saving the said bill of lading hee received of mr Painter
by whome hee was desired to send it, and by whome alsoe he was desired to
write the first letter.

To the second hee saith hee is a Roman Catholik, and maketh a conscience
of the oath with which hee hath taken in this cause, and beleeveth himselfe bound
thereby to speake the truth, and that it should be a mortall sinne in him
to

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