MRP: 20th February 1662/63, Letter from John Nelsthorpe to Sir HO, forwarded to Sir GO by Sir HO
20th February 1662/63, Letter from John Nelsthorpe to Sir HO, forwarded to Sir GO by Sir HO
BL, Add. MS. XX,XXX ff. 112-113
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John Nelsthorpe wrote to Sir Henry Oxenden on February 20th 1662/63 "on y:e behalfe o a Nephew of mine; (of my owne name,) now under y:e Dispose of yo:r Brother, S:r Geo: Oxinden." Sir Henry sent Nelthorpe's letter on to his brother with a short covering note that the enclosed came to him "from a honest acquaintance." The nephew was Francis Nelthorpe.
John Nelsthorpe (alias Nelthorpe) was probably the future Sir John Nelthorpe, the second son of Richard Nelthorpe of Scawby, Lincolnshire. A pedigree for the Nelthorpe family of Scawby, Lincolnshire in Lincolnshire Pedigrees states that John Nelthorpe entered Gray's Inn in 1634 and was created a baronet in May 1666. He died three years later in 1669. According to the same source, Francis Nelthorpe was his nephew, the son of his brother, Edward Nelthorpe of Barton-on-Humber and of Magdalen née Sandwith, of Barrow.[1]
John Nelthorpe described his nephew and his nephew's situation as "very fitt for Busynesse, being of very good parts, & haveing allready spent 5: or 6: yeares in India; hee at present is in y:e Comp:a service at Calevela a place in y:e opinion of his freinds something to remoate, from the presence of y:e Presid:t." Sir Henry helpfully chipped in in his covering letter: " I think hee meanes Bengall, by Cale Vole." Desiring that Sir George Oxenden might meet his nephew, John Nelthorpe hoped: "hee may please to Confirme some Employment upon him wherein hee may Both bee serviceable to y:e Comp:a, & alsoe reape some sweete, as wel as sweate, of his soo long Banishm:t from his freinds & native soyle, y:t may redound to his owne accomp:t."
This letter was probably sent in the same package of letters as another from Sir Henry Oxenden to his brother, which immediately precedes it in the copy book, Henry having forgotten to raise the matter in that previous letter.[2]
It is not clear how Sir George Oxenden responded to the letter. Nevertheless, Francis Nelsthorpe, the subject of the uncle's letter, appears in 1665 amongst Sir George Oxenden's correspondents, writing twice from Fort St. George.[3]
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[BL, Add. MS. XX,XXX ff. 112-113]
[f.112]
Dearest Brother
This inclosed comes to mee from a honest acquaintance, w:ch I should bee gladd to serve by my interest in you if it stand with your Likeing, & Convenyenci[X], I send you this lre because it will best express his desires I think hee meanes Bengall, by Cale ?Vole; pray Brother serve this Gentleman in thy pticular if you Cann well doo it; which will add more favours to.
Yo:r very affectionate Bro:
& servant
Hen: Oxinden (sic)
I forgott to putt this matter into my other lre.
S:r
I presume upon yo:r former Civilities, to putt these lines into yo:r hands, by way of petition: on y:e behalfe o a Nephew of mine; (of my owne name,) now under y:e Dispose of yo:r Brother, S:r Geo: Oxinden; Presid:t of y:e East India Comp:a in India : wherein w:t favour you shall vouchsafe in writeing, or you Brother, at you:r desire Confirr (sic) upon him, shall w:th all respects bee acknowledged by us Both; in Short my request is, y:t you will please in a line or two to recomend him to y:e Prsid:t as a freind of yo:s very fitt for Busynesse, being of very good parts, & haveing allready spent 5: or 6: yeares in India; hee at present is in y:e Comp:a service at Calevela a place in y:e opinion of his freinds something to remoate, from the
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presence of y:e Presid:t If hee might have y:e favour y:t yo:r Brother would see him , they hope, his pson & qualityes would bee sufficient lres of recomendation, especially when directed to him by yo:r Superscription & then I hope upon y:t yo:r faire presentation of him, & yo:r Brothers essay á view of his abilitye, hee may please to Confirme some Employment upon him wherein hee may Both bee serviceable to y:e Comp:a, & alsoe reape some sweete, as wel as sweate, of his soo long Banishm:t from his freinds & native soyle, y:t may redound to his owne accomp:t, this will forever putt him under an obligation of endearement to y:e memory of yo:r famely; y:t y:e name of Oxinden shall bee to him as á sweete pfume, in all places of his future aboades, & wherein I cann serve you, or yo:s in any respect yo:r word shall bee á Command w:chyou may expect without Delay to bee observed by.
S:r
Yo:r reall ffreind to Love & serve
You
Jn:o Nelsthorpe
20: ffeb:ry 1662:
If you please to send yo:r lre to mee I must desire it by y:e midle of March & then I shall take care to have it conveyed to the Presid:t; my nephewes name is ffran:s Nelthorpe
Notes
Lincolnshire Nelthorpe family or families
There are extensive Nelthorpe records at Lincolnshire archives.
There is also a detailed pedigree 'Nelthorpe of Scawby' in A.R. Maddison (ed.), Lincolnshire pedigrees, vol. 2 (London, 1902), pp. 702-704
Sir Goddard Nelthorpe, St James in the Fields
Sir Goddard Nelthorpe was building in St James in the Fields post 1660. This may be Sir Goddard Nelthorpe of St James Clerkenwell. Sir Henry Oxenden was undertaking similar property development in this period in Oxenden Street.
Sir John Nelthorpe bart
There are also records of a Sir John Nelthorpe bart.
Possible primary sources
Lincolnshire Archives
LINCOLNSHIRE ARCHIVES: Nelthorpe [NEL I - NEL V]: Copy of a will. NEL IV/21/1 Dated 26th December, 1684
- Contents: Testator: Edward Nelthorpe of Barton on Humber.
Beneficiaries: (Note: his 1st, 2nd. 3rd (now deceased), 5th sons and 1st daughter are already provided for in his marriage settlement etc.).Richard his 1st. son - a ring and a Turkey Carpet cloth (formerly Edward's father's) Francis his 4th son - 4 acres of meadow at Barton, East Close, Barton (in Codicil this close is given to Magdalene), 4 acres of land for 80 years, cottages near Market Place and Priestgate, Barton, Great Creakes Close Barton, 2 plough lands, Barton, Buckles Acre in Barton Ings, 2 acres in Middle Ings, Barton, 6 acres in Far Ings, Barton; Land in Laceby but if Richard his eldest son pays Francis £25 then this land at Laceby shall be Richard's; £100:; one bedstead, feather bed, bolster, pillow, rug, blanket, curtains, "Valines", Book of Martyrs, (3 vols.). James, haberdasher, of London - Little Wood in Bradley of 4 acres. If Richard pays him £25 this goes to Richard. Sir Goddard, Francis, Henry, James, Magdalene are to share Bradley Great Wood (53 acres) unless Richard gives them £300 when it shall go to Richard.Magdalene - all household goods and stuff at Scawby to be removed to house already settled upon her at Barton (Tan House and land). Magdalene Healey, grandchild - £100. Ursula Healy widow daughter - 20 shillings in gold for rings. Elizabeth Johnson of Kingston on Hull - 20 shillings in gold for rings. To his 3 daughters - napery, silver and damask equally divided. To each living grandchild - (now 31 of them) 20 shillings. William Dobson (a witness) - "The Misery of Iniquity or History of Papacy". Sir Goddard - draw table, napkin and great cupboard. To the Poor of Barton, Scawby and Sturton: £6, (i.e. £4 to Barton, £1 to Scawby and £1 to Sturton.). To be buried at Scawby.
Executors: Sir Goddard and Magdalene.
Supervisors: John Nelthorpe of Little Grimsby, his cousin and grandson George Healey of Burringham.
LINCOLNSHIRE ARCHIVES: NELTHORPE: Nelthorpe [NEL I - NEL V] : Copy of a will. NEL IV/21/3 12th February, 1693
- Contents: Testator: John Nelthorpe, merchant of Aleppo.
- Beneficiaries: His father Sir Goddard £40 for a ring and mourning.
Mother, Lady Dorothy, £40 for a ring and mourning. Henry Nelthorpe, his eldest brother - £40 for a ring and mourning.
Revd. Mr. William Hallifax, minister at Aleppo 50 Lyon dollars. William Harvey, a friend - a ring of 20 shillings. Dr. John Pickerne, 50 Lyon dollars. Signor J. G. Transfeldt, 100 Lyon dollars. Monsieur Bigand, a ring. Abdallor, his warehousekeeper 50 dollars. To his boy Michael, 50 dollars. To the Poor - 50 dollars. Mr. Alexander Akehurst, to be assignee and to take books papers and all else and send them to his brothers Edward and Richard Nelthorpe, his executors. Edward Nelthorpe his brother - 2/3 of his estate. Richard Nelthorpe his brother - the other third. Alex. Akehurst - horses, furniture, books, arms, wearing apparel and half the furniture of chambers and country house. George Juxon his partner - his share of partnership and the other half of his furniture of chambers and country house. Mr. Hallifax to manage affairs over the will in Aleppo and the Bishop of London in England. Will dated Probate, 1697.
LINCOLNSHIRE ARCHIVES: Nelthorpe [NEL I - NEL V]: Copy of a will. NEL IV/21/5 9th March, 1700:
- Contents: Testator: Francis Nelthorpe of Bridlington Quay. [co. York]
- Beneficiaries: Thomas his eldest son. - land at Barton for 80 years.
- ↑ 'Nelthorpe of Scawby' in A.R. Maddison (ed.), Lincolnshire pedigrees, vol. 2 (London, 1902), pp. 702-704
- ↑ XXXX, f. 112
- ↑ 12th August 1665, Letter from Francis Nelthorpe to Sir GO, Fort St. George
