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The 7th day of January 1658/old stile

Greene; Parker and others against}
Ketcher, and others}
Suckley: Smith}

Examined upon an Allegation given in by Mr Smith
on the behalfe of the said Ketcher and others,

1:us

Richard Rolfe of Southampton, but lodging
at present in Horsey Downe mariner, late
Boatswaine of the ship the Lisbone ffrigot,
aged 23 yeeres or thereabouts sworne, and Examined

To the first article hee saith and deposeth that hee hath well knowne
the Arlate ship the Lisbone ffrigot for about a yeere Last; for and
during all which Space and longer shee hath bine and now is belonging to England; and
soe long, (of this deponents knowledge) and longer she hath Really and
truely belonged to English men and Subjects of this Comonwealth
And all the Mariners that served in the said Ship the Voyage in
question were as hee saith Englishmen, and subjects of this Comon.
-wealth, Except one Carole Tye; And soe much hee saith is
Publique and Notorious, The Premisses hee Deposeth: for that hee
went out Boatswaine of the said ship the said Voyage, and soe
Continued untill her arrivall at this Port, and further cannot depose:

To the second hee saith for the reasons aforesaid hee well knoweth that the
whole Number of Marriners, that served in the said Ship the said
Voyage together with the Master consisted of, and were only Eleven men
and one boy, and noe more, And further cannot depose:

To the third and 4th hee saith that the Lisbone ffrigot, the said Voyage arrived
in the Road of l'Oratava on or about the 25th of July 1658. And
saith that the same day, and somewhat before the said Ship the Lixon
ffrigot came into the said Roade of Oratavo aforesaid this deponent
sawe the arlate Bartholomew Ketcher give and deliver unto the
foresaid Carolo Tye, some papers, (but the Contents
of them hee knoweth not) which hee saith the said Tye tooke and
went the same day therewith on shore in a Dutch Boate to the
Port of Oratavo aforesaid and carried the said Papers with him,
And further hee saith hee cannot depose,

To the 5th hee saith that about three or foure houres after the
said Charolo (sic) Tye was gone on shore in the said Dutch
Boate a foresaid the said Ketcher sent foure of his Company
ashore in his owne boate to knowe whether the said Tye had
obtained Prattick for the said ship, or not, And the said Tye
came in the said Ketchers Boate on board the said Ship, and
told the said Ketcher, and the Company that the Spaniards
would not upon any Termes, whatsoever permit the said Ship
to trade there in regard shee came from Italy, and had Goods on
board her that came from Roome (sic), where the plague was at that
time; or words to the same effect. The Premisses hee deposeth for that
hee was one of the foure that was sent ashore in the said Boate afore-
said, and did not only heare the said Tye Tell, the forsaid words, but did
allsoe heare the Spaniards on shore tell the same to the said Tye: And further cannot depose

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[[People::Barthomomew Ketcher

Born: ?; married: ?; died: ?

Captain Bartholomew Ketcher (alt. Kitcher) was active in trade between London, Leghorne (Livorno), and the Canary Islands in the late 1650s according to English Admiralty Court depositions dated January 1658 (1659).^[1]

Ketcher was captaine of the Lisbone ffrigot (?1656 – 1658+?; crew: 11 men and a boy, including the Master.^[2]]

In July 1658, the Lisbone ffrigot arrived in Oratava Road on Tenerife from Leghorne (Livorno), with a cargo of "Oyle, Rice, Silke Stockings, and Rope, and some other Comodityes"^[3], but failed to get a licence or "prattick" from the Spanish authorities, due to Spanish anger at alleged English massacres of Spaniards in Dunkirk.

The ship was forced to sail on to Madeira to sell some of its goods, and then, at the recommendation of Richard Pickford, a leading Madeira merchant, to go on to the Barbary coast.^[4]

The same Bartholomew Ketcher probably fought at the battle of Scheveningen in the Half Moon (30 guns), which he commanded from 1653 to 1654.^[5] The same source reports that Ketcher commanded the Great Charity in 1659. Both were Dutch prizes.]]

Sources

Primary sources

National Maritime Museum

NMM Object ID: AML/N/8, Description: BARTHOLOMEW KITCHER, Bill of lading, 13 Oct 1661 (Formerly FD/7). Date made: 1661

Secondary sources

R. C. Anderson, 'English Fleet-Lists in the First Dutch War', The Mariner’s Mirror, Vol.XXIV No.4, October 1938

R. C. Anderson, 'List of English Naval Captains 1642-1660, 1964' (cited in Blog entry, Thursday, December 23, 2004: English captain: Bartholomew Kitcher (or Ketcher)^[6]

↑ HCA 13/73 f.21r
↑ HCA 13/73 f.23v
↑ HCA 13/73 f.23v
↑ HCA 13/73 f.28v
↑ R. C. Anderson, 'English Fleet-Lists in the First Dutch War,' The Mariner’s Mirror, Vol.XXIV No.4, October 1938
↑ [1], viewed 29/07/13

[1] HCA 13/73 f.21r

[2] HCA 13/73 f.23v

[3] HCA 13/73 f.23v

[4] HCA 13/73 f.28v

[5] R. C. Anderson, 'English Fleet-Lists in the First Dutch War,' The Mariner’s Mirror, Vol.XXIV No.4, October 1938

[6] [1], viewed 29/07/13

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-during all w:ch Space and longer shee hath bine and now is belonging to England; and
+during all which Space and longer shee hath bine and now is belonging to England; and
-soe long, (of this depo:ts knowledge) and longer she hath Really and
+soe long, (of this deponents knowledge) and longer she hath Really and
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 And all the Mariners that served in the said Ship the Voyage in
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-To the second hee saith for y:e reasons aforesaid hee well knoweth that the
+To the second hee saith for the reasons aforesaid hee well knoweth that the
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-Voyage together with the M:r consisted of, and were only Eleven men
+Voyage together with the Master consisted of, and were only Eleven men
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+and one boy, and noe more, And further cannot depose&#58;
-To the third & 4:th hee saith that the Lisbone ffrigot, the said Voyage arrived
+To the third and 4th hee saith that the ''Lisbone ffrigot'', the said Voyage arrived
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+in the Road of l'Oratava on or about the 25th of July 1658. And
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+saith that the same day, and somewhat before the said Ship the ''Lixon''
-ffrigot came into the said Roade of Oratavo aforesaid this depo:t
+''ffrigot'' came into the said Roade of Oratavo aforesaid this deponent
-sawe the arlate Bartholomew Kitcher give and deliver unto the
+sawe the arlate Bartholomew Ketcher give and deliver unto the
-foresaid Carolo Tye, some paps, (but the Contents
+foresaid Carolo Tye, some papers, (but the Contents
-of them hee knoweth not) w:ch hee saith the said Tye tooke and
+of them hee knoweth not) which hee saith the said Tye tooke and
 went the same day therewith on shore in a Dutch Boate to the
 Port of Oratavo aforesaid and carried the said Papers with him,
 And further hee saith hee cannot depose,
-To the 5:th hee saith that about three or foure houres after the
+To the 5th hee saith that about three or foure houres after the
-said Charolo (sic) Tye was ?goite on shore in the said Dutch
+said Charolo (sic) Tye was gone on shore in the said Dutch
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-came in the said Ketche:rs Boate on board the said Ship, and
+came in the said Ketchers Boate on board the said Ship, and
 told the said Ketcher, and the Company that the Spaniards
-would not upon any ?Tezines, whatsoever permit the said Ship
+would not upon any Termes, whatsoever permit the said Ship
 to trade there in regard shee came from Italy, and had Goods on
 board her that came from Roome (sic), where the plague was at that
 time; or words to the same effect. The Premisses hee deposeth for that
 hee was one of the foure that was sent ashore in the said Boate afore-
-said, and did not only heare the said Tye Tell, the forsaid words, but XXXXXX
+said, and did not only heare the said Tye Tell, the forsaid words, but did
-allsoe heare the Spaniards on shore tell y:e same to the said Tye: And further cannot depose
+allsoe heare the Spaniards on shore tell the same to the said Tye&#58; And further cannot depose
+|People=<u>Barthomomew Ketcher</u>
+Born: ?; married: ?; died: ?
+Captain Bartholomew Ketcher (alt. Kitcher) was active in trade between London, Leghorne (Livorno), and the Canary Islands in the late 1650s according to English Admiralty Court depositions dated January 1658 (1659).<ref>[[HCA 13/73 f.21r Annotate|HCA 13/73 f.21r]]</ref>
+Ketcher was captaine of the ''Lisbone ffrigot'' (?1656 – 1658+?; crew: 11 men and a boy, including the Master.<ref>[[HCA 13/73 f.23v Annotate|HCA 13/73 f.23v]]</ref>]
+In July 1658, the ''Lisbone ffrigot'' arrived in Oratava Road on Tenerife from Leghorne (Livorno), with a cargo of "Oyle, Rice, Silke Stockings, and Rope, and some other Comodityes"<ref>[[HCA 13/73 f.23v Annotate|HCA 13/73 f.23v]]</ref>, but failed to get a licence or "prattick" from the Spanish authorities, due to Spanish anger at alleged English massacres of Spaniards in Dunkirk.
+The ship was forced to sail on to Madeira to sell some of its goods, and then, at the recommendation of Richard Pickford, a leading Madeira merchant, to go on to the Barbary coast.<ref>[[HCA 13/73 f.28v Annotate|HCA 13/73 f.28v]]</ref>
+The same Bartholomew Ketcher probably fought at the battle of Scheveningen in the ''Half Moon'' (30 guns), which he commanded from 1653 to 1654.<ref>R. C. Anderson, 'English Fleet-Lists in the First Dutch War,' ''The Mariner’s Mirror'', Vol.XXIV No.4, October 1938</ref> The same source reports that Ketcher commanded the ''Great Charity'' in 1659. Both were Dutch prizes.
+|Primary sources='''National Maritime Museum'''
+NMM Object ID: AML/N/8, Description: BARTHOLOMEW KITCHER, Bill of lading, 13 Oct 1661 (Formerly FD/7). Date made: 1661
+|Secondary sources=R. C. Anderson, 'English Fleet-Lists in the First Dutch War', ''The Mariner’s Mirror'', Vol.XXIV No.4, October 1938
+R. C. Anderson, 'List of English Naval Captains 1642-1660, 1964' (cited in Blog entry, Thursday, December 23, 2004: English captain: Bartholomew Kitcher (or Ketcher)<ref>[http://17th-centurynavwargaming.blogspot.co.uk/2004/12/english-captain-bartholomew-kitcher-or.html], viewed 29/07/13</ref>
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Editorial history
Minor text and format edit on 28/01/2014 and on 18/04/2014 by Colin Greenstreet