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To the 9th, 10 11th and 12th negatively.
To the 13th and 14 hee saith that hee this deponent is a hamburger borne and there
dwelling, [?XXXX] [?hamburgh liveth in it] and otherwise negatively.
To the 15 and 16 negatively.
To the 17 hee cannot depose.
To the 18th hee referreth himselfe to his foregoing deposition, and cannot
To the 19th hee saith the said silver was laden aboard the said shipp in the
said roade under the commannd of the fortresse of cadiz, and saith
the said barkero left the said dispaccio or license, which was brought in the
said shipp and was aboard her at the time of teh said seizure, And
otherwise hee cannot depose saving as aforesaid.
To the 20th and 21th hee saith it is prohibited and unlawfull to export
money or plate from Spaine without license or entrie, and in case of lading
it without license, if it happens to be taken by the kings officers it is confiscate
And otherwise hee cannot depose.
[?XXXX] [?XXXX] [SIGNATURE, RH SIDE]
The 8th of 8ber 1653.
The claime of John Stephen Spinola marchant}
of Antwerp for his moneys and plate in the}
Morning Starr. Michael van lubkin master.}
Examined upon the allegation on the behalfe
of the said Spinola.
Lucas Wrede of hamborough mariner Stiersman
of the said shipp the Morning Starr aged 52 yeares
or thereabouts sworne and examined.
To the first and second articles hee saith that the producent John Stephen
Spinola was and is commonly accompted a subiect of the Kinge of Spaine
and a merchant of fflanders, driving a greate trade for silver betwixt
that countrey and Spaine. And otherwise hee cannot depose.
To the third fourth fifth 6. and 7 articles hee saith and deposeth
that in the moneth of January last past or thereabouts in the bay of Cadiz
there were laden and put aboard the shipp the Morning Starr aforesaid
in the name and as for the accompt of the said John Stephen Spinola two
SS [MARKE, LH MARGIN]
barrs of silver marked as in the margin, to be thence carried in the said
shipp to dunquirke or Ostend and there to be delivered to the use of the
said Spinola who was and is commonly accompted the true and lawfull
owner thereof, which hee knoweth being one of the said shipps company
as aforesaid and seeing the lading thereof. And saith that after the said
lading the said shipp departed for Ostend or dunquirke and was in her
course surprized by some of the Parliaments shipps, and that at the
time of the said seizure the two barrs were aboard, and came to
the possession of the Captaines that made the said seizure, which hee
knoweth being then aboard her and seeing the same soe donne. And
further that teh said Michael Van Lubkin upon the said lading signed
three bills of lading all of one tenor for the same aboard the said shipp in
this deponents sight and presense, and brought one of them alonge
with him in the said shipp, and had the same in her at the time
of the said seizure, And otherwise referring himselfe to the said
bill which hee saith hee hath seene in the Registrie of this Court, hee
cannot depose. saving the said shipp and lading, upon the said seizure
were brought into the River of Thames.
To the 8th hee saith hee beleeveth that in case the said seizure had not
happened the said shipp had arrived in safetie at dunquirke or Ostend
and there delivered the said silver, according to the said bill for thither hee saith shee
was designed and sailing by her said master and company And
otherwise hee cannot depose.
To the 9th hee cannot depose.