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The 17th of November 1653. [CENTRE HEADING]
The keepers of the Libertie of England by}
aithoritie of Parliament against the Saint}
John Baptist deriick heitman master.}
Examined upon the Interrogatories.
Derrick Heytman of hamborough Mariner master
of the said shipp the Saint John Baptist aged 39 yeares
or thereabouts, sworne and examined.
To the first Interrogatorie hee saith and deposeth that hee is master of the
said shipp the Saint John Baptist and hee hath bin for hese three yeares last
and saith hee was borne at hamburgh and hath lived there all his time and
bin maried there for theise seaven yeares last and kept his wife and family
there, and was and is a burgher and a subiect of that free State.
To the second third and fourth hee saith hee came with the said shipp at the time of her seizure
from Malaga bound for dunquirke, and that shee was never at
hamborough since this deponent hath bin master of her, but being bought
at Amsterdam in May last ws two yeares by her [?nowe] owners
went thence to Ostend, thence to Cadiz, thence to
Malaga, thence to dunquirke, thence in summer last into the downes
and received goods from London, and dover and went therewith to Cales
and dischardged the same and thence went to Malaga and comming there
too soone for the vintage, met with order from his owners to goe to
[?Alicant] and take in salt for ballast, which hee did and [?when XX] [?to] Malaga
and there received his lading of fruite, woolls, mulasses and some pipes
of oile, and saith all the said voyages were upon freights by severall persons
and that from Amsterdam to Ostend shee went in ballast and there
laded [?peace] goods for severall merchants of fflanders and Brabant, and
that this last voyage from Cales to Malaga hee went in his ballast of
[?sand], And otherwise hee cannot depose.
To the fifth and 6th hee saith that the said shipp being built at Amsterdam about
three yeares since and this deponent put master of her from the first building
and hath soe continued, and there being at the first some holland owners
with hamburgers, and they disagreeing, the hamburgers (her present owners)
bought her wholely by themselves in May last was two yeares, and that
they live in severall place, and for their names, parts and place of aboad
hee sith the same were and are as followeth videlicet G[?e]romus Snitger of
hamburgh owner of a 16th part, daniel Brands of the same of a 16th
part, Adrian Goldsmith a hamburger living at Antwerp owner of
six sixteenth parts, daniel Leon and ffrancis panniq two hamburgers
of Sevill each a 32th part. Vincent dal Campo a hamburger living at
Cales owner of a sixteenth part, Christofer Bussel a hamburger
living at Malaga a 16th part, Maurice halman, George [?Gryp] and
company of Malaga all hamburgers an 8th part, Boldwin Coleman of Gant an
eighth part; And saith the sauid shipp [?XXXX] cost 13200 gilders. And that the said
persons have dwellt severall yeares in the said severall places, only Adrian
Goldsmith hath not lived above a yeare and a halfe last or
thereabouts at Antwerp, having longe before lived in Spaine. And
otherwise hee cannot depose.
To the seaventh hee saith hee well knoweth the Interrogated Andreas von
[?Cantlebeke]. don Antonio da los Rios [?Sariasa]. Simon Brandes and
company, Maurice halmars and George Grip, Simon [?Mallfort], Andrew
[?Masta] and Charles van damme, and was in their company at Malaga
and formerly carried goods to them but not this voyage, and that some of them
were aboard him in the voyage at Malaga, and otherwise hee cannot depose
saving as aforesaid.
Adrian GoldsmithDerrick Heytman claims in his deposition that Adrian Goldsmith, though resident in Antwerp, was actually a Hamburger, who had earlier lived for a long time in Spain. This is possible, though not definite. Certainly Christopher Boone, an English merchant who had lived in Spain, knew Adrian Goldsmith from the Spanish trade. Moreover, there is a later claim from 1655 for goods in the ship the Hare in the feild ("The claime of Adrian Goldsmith of Antwerp} and others for goods in the hare in the feild.} John kein Master"), The London merchant, John Nicolas, had been an assuer for goods of Adrian Goldsmith on the ship. Nicholas stated in a deposition in support of this claim that he had seen a letter , prior to his subscription to the assurance policy "that the said goods were laden for the accompt of mr Goldsmith of Antwerp and (as hee remembreth) other friends of hamborowe£"