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well knoweth being a neighbour and freind of the producent that he did
lade severall great quantityes of wooll for his accompt aboard the sayd
shipp this deponent haveing seene some of them laden, and likewise bills of
lading for some of them signed, and that severall other merchants subiects
of the King of Spaine did lade severall good quantities of wooll and Iron
on board the sayd shipp for accompt of Spanish and fflandrian merchants, to be transported
to and discharged att Ostend, which this deponent did come to take particular
notice of for that being to come to this port of London he was once in
mynd to have shippt himselfe in the foresayd shipp, but afterwards lighting
upon an English vessell bound for this Port shippt himselfe in her and
sayled in her in Company of the sayd shipp arlate from Bilboa to the
tyme of her seizure now in question and saith there was a bill of sale
made of the sayd shipp by the name of the ffaithfull Souldier to the sayd Thomas
de Saracha Santa Columba by the sayd John Barents which bill or Contract
of sale this deponent saw in the Notaries booke in Bilboa who drew the same
upp, and saith that the sayd Thomas de Saracha Santa Columba and shipp ffaithfull
Souldier in the sayd bill of sale specifyed and Thomas de Sarachae Santa Columba
and shipp Nostra Seniora de Bigonna were and are the very same person
and shipp and not diverse. And further saving his subsequent depositions
he saith he cannot depose.
To the Crosse Interrogatories.
To the .1. negatively.
To the .2. he saith he hath knowne the sayd shipp about 5 monethes and otherwise
saving his foregoeing depositions he cannot depose.
To the 3d. he saith he cannot depose otherwise than as aforesayd.
To the .4th. he saith the Owners of the sayd shipp are Thomas de Sancta Columba
Jacques de Backer and Pedro dal Guero and about 2 or 3 persons more
all Bicayners whose names att present he remembreth not, and for their
use thsi Rendent saw possession delivered of the sayd shipp to the sayd Sancta Columba
in the sayd moneth of August 1653 att Bilboa.
To the .5th. he saith he cannot depose saving that the sayd shipp came last from Bilboa
and is bound to Ostend.
To the .6. he saith he hath knowne Thomas de Saracha Santa Columba 10 yeares
and John Baptista de Mendietta 6 yeares, and they are both Spaniards and
Inhabitants of Bilboa and so have bene by report all their dayes, and there
now have their families: and others the owners of the sayd goods whose
names this Rendent remembreth not are as this Rendent credibly heard
before his comeing from Bilboa, Biskayners and fflandrians. and further
To the .7. he saith he saw not nor knoweth of the buying of any of the sayd
woolls or iron. and further cannot depose.
To the .8. he saith he saw the sayd John Baptista de Mendietta att Bilboa and
aboard the sayd shipp whilst she lay there. and Thomas de Santa Columba in like
manner and sawe many quantities of woolls laden aboard the sayd shipp
in his the sayd Columbas warehowses att Bilboa before the same were laden and saw severall
boates passt off with severall parcells of his woolls to the sayd shipp.
and not knoweing the names of any more of the sayd Laders he cannot
depose whether or noe he saw them att Bilboa the tyme interrate and
otherwise cannot depos saving he saw severall other persons whom he knoweth to
be Spaniards lade goods aboard the sayd shipp but remembreth not their names.
To the .9. negatively.
To the .10. he saith the sayd shipp began her outwards voyage about 1st December
Spanish stile 1653. with he lading of wolls and Iron and can give noe
accompt of any other of her voyages.