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and is well assured that about the tyme and tymes of lading the sayd
woolls and Cochineale respectively att Cadiz as aforesayd, the sayd Christian
Cloppenbergh did signe three bills of lading of one tenor for the sayd woolls
and three of one tenor for the sayd Cochineal, and that two of eyther tnor
came along with the sayd goods and were aboard att the tyme of seizure
and that the Contents of the bills of lading now shewne him were and are
true and reall and were att or neere Cadiz about the respective dayes of
the dates thereof really signed by the sayd Christian Cloppenbergh. And
further hee cannot depose.
To the fifth sixth and seventh articles of the sayd allegation This deponent saith
that he hath credibly heard and verily beleiveth that the sayd shipp was
in her Course betwixt Cadiz ad Ostend seized by some of the shipps
of this Commonwealth, and that the sayd woolls and Cochineale thereby
came into the possession of the Takers, and otherwise referring hiselfe
to his foregoeing depositions he cannot depose saving that he beleiveth
for the reasons aforesayd that the sayd producents did and doe runn the
sole hazard and adventure of their sayd goods respectively, and that they
should have bene converted to their benefitt and use respectively by their
Agents in Flanders.
To the Crosse Interrogatories.
To the 1. negatively.
To the 2. he saith he hath knowne the producents 25 yeares or
thereabouts. and saw them about September 1652 att Sevill but not att Cadiz and otherwise
he cannot depose.
To the .3.d he saith he saw the sayd woolls in their sayd owners possession as
aforesayd. but did not see the sayd Cochineale in the possession of Anthony de Chavez
To the .4. he saith the producents are both Spaniards by common repute. and
further cannot depose saving as aforesayd
To the .5. he sayeth he was not privy to or knowing of the buying of any
the goods in question nor can give any further Accompt of the right
of the Claymers to the same than as aforesayd
To the .6. and .7. he saith he was not present nor saw the firming of the bills of
lading interrate, but beleiveth them to be reall and true for the reasons
aforesayd and otherwise cannot depose.
To the 8. 9. and 10th he saith he beleiveth for the reasons aforesayd that
that the producents did cause he sayd goods to be laden. and further
being not aboard att the lading thereof he cannot depose.
To the .11. negatively
To the 12. he saith he cannot depose otherwise than as aforesayd.
To the .13. he saith he was borne att Madrid, and inhabited att Limma
aforesayd. and otherwise negatively.
To the .14. he saith he cannot depose otherwise than he hath predeposed
To the 15. 16. 17. and 18. he saith he knoweth nothing thereof.
To the 19. negatively.
To the 20. 21. and 22th he saith that he was not present att the
signing or delivery of the sayd bills of lading and therefore cannot
depose to theis Interrogatoryes any otherise than as aforesayd.
de [?XXXX] [SIGNATURE, RH SIDE]
Roger Kilvert [SIGNATURE, LH SIDE]
Sam Delaplace [SIGNATURE, LH SIDE]
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