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reputed to belonge to Amsterdam, which hee knoweth to be true because he this
deponent for all the said time (ended in September 1652) lived and was a
Sailemaker in Amsterdam, and till within theise two yeares last past
journey worke at that trade with and under Mathew ffransen living there, who
was then one of the owners of the said shipp the Salvador, and to him the said
Christian Cloppenburgh and company from time to time used to repaire to supplie
the said shipp with sailes, and to mend them when and as often as neede
required. And saith that about two yeares since the said shipp the Salvador began
her out ward voyage from Amsterdam being the last voyage and time she went thence
and carried a good cargazon of goods thence to a goods valew, all which hee knoweth
to be true because hee was then there and tooke notice of the premisses, and as
hee heard the said shipp carried and dischardged the said outwards lading at Cadiz
the place where (as it is said) shee tooke in her homewards lading of silver and other
goods, which were seized in her. And otherwise hee cannot depose.

To the fifth and sixth articles of the said allegation hee saith and deposeth that the
said Christian Cloppenburgh while the warrs lasted betwixt Spaine and holland
was accustomed for his outwards voyages from Amsterdam to hire men there for
Spaine and the Streights and parts thereabouts, and when the said men there
made question to what place they should come back and where end their voyages, hee would
still answer at hamburgh, and when they have made difficultie to be
hired in retourne thither, saying it would be greate chardged to them to retourne thence
home, hee the said Christian Cloppenburgh would frequently tell them that hee
would hire a boate to send them home to Amsterdam without any chardges to them and yet from time
to time hee hath made his retourne with his said shipp with silver and other goods
to Amsterdam from Spaine, and this deponent being severall times in Spaine
at Cadiz within theise nine yeares sawe and tooke notice that after the
said Christian Cloppenburgh his arivall there wuth the said shipp and
dischardge of his goods from Amsterdam, hee hath used to take freight for
other ports in Spaine and the Streights, till such time as the Spanish
plate fleete retourned from the West Indies, and then to take in silver and
other foods for Amsterdam; and as before from Amsterdam, soe from Cadiz
to hire men for hamborough and to make and give out to the Spaniards that hee
was bound for hamburgh to the end to conceale his being bound for Amsterdam
from any saving such as would lade silver and goods aboard him for Amsterdam
by which artifice hee got greate freights and imployment,
when in truth hee belonged to Amsterdam whither hee went and ended his
voyages. And otherwise hee cannot depose, saving the men at
length that were soe hired having found out the fraude, and came to take
notice that they were to goe to Amsterdam when as they were hired for hamburgh,
would frequently say amongest themselves, [?Ja ?Ja], wee knowe what hamborough
men are hired for, it is greate hamburgh, which (as they said) was Amsterdam or to
the same effect, which hee knoweth having frrquent conversation with them.

To the 12 and 13 articles hee saith and deposeth that hee well knoweth the shipp
arlate having the Golden Sun upon her sterne (whereof Peter Tam is master)
amd heard that the voyage in question she came in Companie of the Sampson
Salvador and Saint George arlate from Cadiz, within some short space before
or after them, and soe that shee mett or was in theire Companie att sea
after their said departure the said voyage from Cadiz, and came in theire
Companie into the English Channell. and that the said shipp havinge the
golden Sunn uppon her sterne escapinge and not beinge mett withall,
arrived in Ostend in or about the moneth of October 1652. att which
tyme this deponent was there, and sawe her said arrivall, and especially
her said Master And after such her arrivall shee unladed
her silver, and delivered the same to one dwellinge there in the [?kay]
streete, this deponent beinge presen, and seeinge and takeinge notice
of