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bin sometymes absent in parts beond the sea about his Merchandizing
affayres, but is a subiect of the Commonwealth of England and
soe reputed. And further hee cannot depose./

To the last hee saith his foregoeing deposition is true/

Repeated before both Judges

High Tr[?o]vanion [SIGNATURE, RH SIDE]


The 14th day of July 1658/ [CENTRE HEADING]

Examined on the sayd allegation/

Rp. 3us

Thomas Bale of London Merchant aged 27 yeares
or thereabouts a wittnes sworne and examined saith
and deposeth as followeth videlicet./

To the first article of the sayd allegation hee saith hee cannot depose only
hee saith hee knoweth that the arlate William Warren was Supracargo
of the Mary and Joyce the voyage in question and came Supracargo of
her to Saphia in december 1657 with many goods laden aboard her
for Accompt of Thomas Warren, but what goods the sayd William
had for his owne Accompt aboard her hee knoweth not/ And further
hee cannot depose for that hee was a factor for Thomas Warren
at Saphia when the Shipp Mary and Joyce sett out from London./

To the 2 3 and 4th articles of the sayd allegation hee saith that hee being resident
at Saphia as aforesayd as a factor for the sayd Thomas Warren there, knoweth
that in the moneth of december 1657 the sayd shipp Mary and Joyce and the sayd
William Warren in her as Supracargo, did arive at Saphia where this
deponent having receaved letters of Advice to that purpose from Thomas
Warren did assiste the sayd William Warren in the disposeing and bartering
away of divers goods brought in the sayd shipp from London and reinvesting
of them in bees waxe and other Merchandizes, after which the sayd
William Warren and this deponent with him went in the sayd shipp
Mary and Joyce to the Canaries and arrived in the roade of Oratava
there with the sayd waxe and other Merchandizes in the moneth of ffebruary
1657 old style and 1658 new style, or latter end of January,
where hee knoweth the sayd William Warren did barter a way part
of the sayd bees waxe and some gold and peeces of eight and
other Merchandizes for Canarie wines and therein caused to bee laded aboard
the sayd shipp 190 pipes or thereabouts of Canarie wynes to bee transported
thence for London, a hundred and fifty whereof or thereabouts were for Accompt
of the sayd Thomas Warren, and the rest (as hee beleeveth) were
for the Accompt of the sayd William Warren but the number soe
laden for the sayd William Warrens Accompt hee remembreth
not, nor knoweth whether any others arlate had any share with
the sayd William Warren in the wines by him laden as for his
owne Accompt, And further saving his subsequent deposition hee
cannot depose for that hee was not privie to the signeing of any bills
of ladeing for any wines taken aboard the sayd shipp the sayd voyage,




Thomas Bale

It is clear from Thomas Bales' will, dated November 17th, 1671, that he retained his connections with the Spanish and probably the Canry wine trade.

In this will, Bale mentions debts due to him from two merchants in Cadiz. His will is made anticipating imminent death ("now weak in Bodie") in the port of Sally, on the Barbary coast. It is not clear whether Bale died in Sally, since there is a five year gap until the date of probate in February 1676 (modern dating).

This connection with the Barbary coast is apparent in Thomas Bale's deposition in HCA 13/72 above, made in July 1658, in which he mentions being a factor for the London merchant Thomas Warren at the port of Saphia, which was also on the North African coast.

Thomas Warren

William Warren

In his will, dated 1676, Thomas Bale, merchant, appointed "Mr William Warren in Lime=street of London Merchant" as his sole Executor. [1]


Primary sources



PROB 11/350/141 Will of Thomas Bale, Merchant of London 03 February 1676

PROB 11/450/427 Will of William Warren, Merchant of London 27 May 1699 SEE Ancestry digital image

- Not to be confused with Sir William Warren, timber merchant, based in Wapping, who was a commercial partner with Sir John Shorter in Baltic trade

- Inspection of PROB 11/450/427 does not confirm or disprove the theory that this the will of Thomas Bale's sole executor, with whom he had commercial links in the 1650s, and no doubt later
  1. PROB 11/350/141 Will of Thomas Bale, Merchant of London 03 February 1676