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The 22th of March 1658.
Lord Protector against the Hope)
aforesaid don Juan master.)
Jacome Juan of ?Deva in Biscay Mariner, aged 28 yeeres or
thereabouts sworne and examined.
To the first Interrogatorie hee saith that John Lopez (his precontest) and Mr Betts master of
the said shipp the Hope in or about July 1657 spake to this deponent in this citie
of London to goe a voyage hence with them for Amsterdam and soe for the West
Indoes as boatswaine the said Betts the master of the said shipp, and this deponent
yeelding to goe, the said Betts hired and agreed with him, and soe this deponent
went with them hence to Amsterdam, where hee was embarked in the said
shipp the Hope, which departed from thence in or about September last was
a twelve moneth, bound for the West Indies, but hee was not made acquainted
to whose particular place there shee was designed, and saith shee carried in her
from Amsterdam linnen, woollen, silkes, and some pipes of wine, and that in their
passage they disposed of some of the said good (to the value of one thousand peeces
of eight or thereabouts) at the Iland of Trinidad towards procuring their
dispatches for the Indies, and further that as hee was informed by John Lopez
the said goods were for account of John Page of London
merchant and is father in law, Antonio ffernandez Carravajall, Antonio
Rodriguez Robles and Andrew Duncan for this citie, and John Tilly and
John [?Chanterwell] of Amsterdam. And otherwise cannot depose saving the said
Betts is reputed an Englishman.
To the second hee saith the said shipp wemt directly from Amsterdam to the
Iland of Trinidad and there delivered out some of the said goods (namely linnens,
hatts, knives and a pipe of wine) towards gaining their said dispatches; but
tooke more goods in there, and having obtained the said dispatches shee went to
Comana in the terra firma of the Spanish West Indies, and there also sold
some other of her lading for money which shee received and tooke in, and went
thence to Truxilla (in their way to Honduras) and at Truxillas delivered out
linnen woollen and wine, which the said Lopez there sold in truck for sassaperilla and hides
to be delivered him in his returne with the said shipp from honduras, and
soe went with the said shipp to the Gulfe of Honduras, where hee delivered
out all the rest of the said outwards lading, and tooke in in truck thereof all the chests and skins that
were brought in the said ship containing Indigo and druggs, and further hee
To the third hee saith that after receipt of the said Indicao and druggs in chests
and skinn-baggs aboard at honduras, the said shipp retourned to Truxilla and
there tooke in the said sassaperilla and hides before contracted for and bought as
aforesaid, and thence touched at Mat[?ensa] by occasion of fowle weather, and
thence came with intent to come to the downes at Dover; and saith the said
chests were three hundred eightie three, the said skinn-baggs eleaven, the
hides foure hundred seaventie six, the sassaperilla one thousand and one
hundred arobes and two barrells and two basketts of druggs, all which goods
were laded by the said John Lopez (as hee saith) who was Cape merchant of
the said shipp the said voyage, and is (as hee taketh it) a Spaniard And further
hee cannot depose.
To the fourth hee saith the said Mr Page and Mr ffernandez spake to the said
John Lopez and the said Betts to undertake the said voyage, this deponent being
in the citie present at severall their discourses thereabouts, and saith the said
Betts was commander of the vessell, but the said Lopez was to appear and
did ?assume to be master and merchant and all) in the Spanish West Indies for
the better preservation of the goods hee being a Spaniard, And otherwise cannot
To the 5th hee answereth negatively for his part, and otherwise cannot depose.
To the 6th hee saith hee never knew or saw the said shipp before such his comming
to Amsterdam and to be embarked in her, and hee beleeveth that the said Mr