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soe to be, but this hee well knoweth namely that they were the retuourne and
proceed of the said outward cargo soe laded by the said Philip can hulten and
company at Amsterdam, And otherwise hee cannot depose as hee saith
but referreth himselfe to the said vills, which were drawne by the said Mollar
and by him brought to this deponent to be signed, as is usuall in such case,
the Sopra cargo being the person that usually knows in whom the proprietie is
better than the commander of the vessell.
To the five and thirtieth hee saith that in case the said shipp the Saint
Mary and her lading had appertained to Spaniards, subiects of the king
of Spaine, and had bin thither intruded to be carried for their account, this deponent
and companie could and might have gonne with and carried the same to
Cadiz, or going into the bay of Gibraltar, could and might have carried
and anchored her under the fortresse of Gibraltar, in such manner as
Captaine Story or an other should not have had the oportunitie of
seizing them, and might and would have gonne into such securitie
before the arivall of the ffairfax frigot, which was not till the said shipp
had ridd in the said roade of Gibraltar two dayes and two nights, which
hee knoweth being aboard her, and commander of her as aforesaid.
To the six and thirtieth hee saith and deposeth that the said shipp Santa Maria
was and is dutch built, and was built at Amsterdam, this deponent
seeing her in building and being an owner and designed master of her
before shee was halfe built, and saith that when shee soe proceeded from
Amsterdam on the said voyage, shee was and still is belonging to
subiects of the States of the United Netherlands, saving one quarter
part of her, which was and is belonging to Michaell Engels, daniell
Callina and hendrick Momma hamburgers, dwelling in hamborow,
which hee knoweth being himselfe one of the said owners.
To the seaven and thirtieth hee saith the said John Mollar was and is a
native of hamborow and a subiect of that State, where this deponent
knew him a youth and knew his father and mother there, and saith hee is a
subiect of the said free State of hamborow, and hath lived in holland, and
was living with the said van hulten there to thetime of his said going
thence the voyage in question.
To the eight and thirtieth hee saith that hee this deponent was and is
alsoe a native of hamborow, and lived there all his time till
his comming to dwell in holland which was about two yeares and a halfe
since, and is alsoe made a burger or free denizen of Amsterdam and soe
is now a subiect of the said States, and for and as such hee was and is
commonly accounted, and saith that his dwelling hath alwaies bin at
hamborow or Amsterdam, saving when hee hath bin at sea as commander
To the nine and thirtieth hee saith that the said John Mexia da herera
went from Amsterdam in the said shipp the said voyage, and both hee and
the other Spaniards taken in at the Canaries, were embarqued for the better
carrying on the trade and imployment of the said shipp at Santa Domingo,
where they being Spaniards were free to trade. And saith the said
Mexia hath not any part or share in the said shipp, nor (soe farr as
hee knoweth) in the goods laded aboard her, And further hee cannot depose
To the fourtieth article hee cannot depose, not knowing that the said
Mexia spake or declared any such thing.