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Kingsman the Commander of her and one Samu … Kingsman the Commander of her and one Samuell Carde<br />
in the Castle of Battavia and kept them soe<br />
close prizoners that this deponent and others of the ''Postillians'' com=<br />
pany could not for some tyme bee admitted to speake with them nor not soe<br />
much as from off the wall of he Castle the centeries prohibiting<br />
any speech with them And further hee cannot depose saving hee<br />
saith hee heard severall English souldiers who served the dutch<br />
there sayd that the sayd Kingsman and Carde were very cruelly<br />
used in the Castle and found to lye upon the bricke pavements having<br />
noe cloathes but their wearing garments to cover them./
To the 7th Interrogatorie hee saith that the sayd Kingsman after a while<br />
having liberty to speake to those of his Company who came to<br />
him in presence of souldiers who garded him, and from the walls<br />
of the Castle, this deponent one day coming to him the sayd<br />
Kingsman speaking from the wall of the Castle to this deponent<br />
who stood belowe in the Court of Guard desyred this deponent to<br />
looke out for a Notary publique and get him to come thither to<br />
him and soeake with him, which this deponent did, and a<br />
Notary coming the sayd Kingsman with the helpe<br />
of an English drummer who could speake dutch alsoe, had<br />
conference with the sayd Notary, the Notary speaking alltogeather<br />
dutch, and the drummer interpreting betwixt them, and this deponent<br />
standing in the Court of Guard which was about sixe<br />
stepps lower then the place where the sayd Kingsman and the Notary<br />
and drummer stood in conference togeather, heard the sayd drummer<br />
tell the sayd Kingsman that the Notary sayd hee could doe nothing<br />
nor durst doe nothing in his busines without consent of the Generall<br />
John Matsooker And this deponent understanding some dutch (though hee<br />
cannot perfectly speake the language) and meeteing with the Notary<br />
soone after in the streete in Batavia, the Notary told this deponent<br />
that hee had spoken with the Generall and that hee would not consent<br />
that hee should doe any thing in the sayd Kingsmans busines and<br />
therefore hee durst doe nothing therein for feare of either<br />
looseing his life or being turned out of his place, And saith<br />
that this deponent alsoe heard the Interrogate Mr [?Vernate]<br />
sayd that the Court had given liberty to the sayd Kingsman to<br />
choose one who might bee of Counsell for him in the sayd busines and<br />
that the sayd Kingsman had made choise of him the sayd [?Vernate] and<br />
that teh Court after hee had soe made choise would not admitt him the<br />
said [?vernat] to bee of Counsell for the sayd Kingsman And further<br />
hee cannot depose./nd further<br />
hee cannot depose./ +
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