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To the fourteenth article hee saith that t … To the fourteenth article hee saith that the said John Chanterwell liveth<br />
and keepeth house and familie in Amsterdam, where this deponent hath<br />
bin ofte at his house, and was and is commonly accounted a<br />
subiect of the States of the United Netherlands.
To the fifteenth hee saith that the said John lopez did indeed give out<br />
at the West Indias that the said shipp and lading belonged<br />
to him, but did soe declare and give out (and soe hee acknowledged<br />
and soe this deponent knoweth) mearly to get libertie of trade there<br />
and to secure them from confiscation, for had shee bin knowne to<br />
belong to any other than Spaniards, shee had bin in danger thereof, and<br />
would not have bin permitted to trade; And saith they really belong to the<br />
said Imployers the producents, and none other. yeelding a reason of<br />
his knowledge as aforesaid.
To the 16th hee saith that from the time of this deponents aid comming<br />
home which was on or about the eighth of January last, hee hath almost<br />
daily frequented the Exchange, and knoweth that the b[XXX] and report hath<br />
there gonne constantly amongst the marchants that the said ship and goods<br />
were for the said account of the said marchants the producents, and severall<br />
have endeavoured to get this deponent to put them in the same way<br />
of trade, by discovering unto them the way thereof. And further hee<br />
cannot depose.
To the 17th hee saith hee hath knowne the said John lopez about six<br />
yeares last, during which space hee the said John hath dwelt in and<br />
about this citi[?a], saving when hee hath bin in voyages at sea, in which<br />
hee hath bin imployed by severall merchants.
To the 18 and 19th hee saith that at Comana the arlate Simon To[?mson]<br />
Bleau in a miserable poore ragged condition eaten with moskito's<br />
almost starved came to the said shipp and saying hee was a poore dutch<br />
boy and desired to come home for his countrey besought the said John lopez<br />
to take compassion on him and receive him into the shipp and give him<br />
victuall to sustaine him, and said hee would doe what worke hee was<br />
able therefore, and requested this deponent and the said Betts to further<br />
him therein, and soe hee was in pitty received, but after a while<br />
hee appeared to be a very lewd lying, pilfering idle fellow, given to<br />
drawing of his knife and quarralling and threatened and endeavoured<br />
to stab some of the company, for which his lewdnes hee being somtimes<br />
corrected and drubd, bore greate spleen against them that corrected him,<br />
being especially the Spaniards aboard, and when the shipp was soe come<br />
to Milford haven hee threatened to be revenged, and amongst other<br />
threates swore hee would informe that the shipp and goods belonged to<br />
Spaniards, though the divell should fetch him for it, and saith<br />
hee this examinate heard him soe say and threaten, and that hee would<br />
doe them all the mischeife hee could or to that effect.
To the 20th hee saith hee doth not know nor beleeve that the said John<br />
lopez did teare, throw over board or make away any of the shipps<br />
papers, nor would hee soe to doe in regard of an English, being in<br />
the service of such subiects and friends of this commonwealth, but<br />
hee and this deponent and the rest were fearfull of meeting with Spanish<br />
vessells, and shipping [XXX] off London, they much suspected them to bee<br />
such, and apprehended much danger from them in that regard. And<br />
further hee cannot depose.
To the 21th hee saith that the said John lopez receiveing some letters at<br />
Truxillo from a shipps company (that came from Cadiz and supposed<br />
that the ''Hope'' was thither bound) to be thether conveyed, upon the ''Hopes''<br />
touching at Matousa in her retourne, left them there to be thense<br />
conveyed, being loath to throw them over board, and beleeveth they did not<br />
at all mention or concerne the ''hope'' or her lading.
Tor concerne the ''hope'' or her lading.
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